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BassAckwards' 2TR-FE PreRunner

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by BassAckwards, May 19, 2017.

  1. Jul 22, 2021 at 8:14 AM
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    Hell yeah, that'll be a nice little break. Three day weekend for me, can't wait!
     
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  2. Jul 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM
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    :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Jul 22, 2021 at 10:21 AM
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    I just need to order material, and have it in hand, prior to you coming down. Then it would be a lot quicker to mock everything up on a weekend. Then get you back together to head home on a Sunday. In and out.

    I would just cut and tack everything.
     
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  4. Jul 22, 2021 at 10:50 AM
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    Sounds good my friend. Let me know whenever you have the goods in hand, and we will set a date and make this happen :thumbsup:
     
  5. Jul 22, 2021 at 10:58 AM
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  6. Jul 23, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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    Installed some daystar shock boots today to provide a little more protection for the shafts. Did some research and found these that @whatstcp used and they worked perfect on my 2.5s.
    AEF21C87-848E-4E12-99F3-58724999D508.jpg
     
  7. Jul 23, 2021 at 7:11 PM
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    Mad in the USA too. :woot:
     
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  8. Jul 23, 2021 at 11:33 PM
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    They work awesome and cheap as heck. Backstory to that is I went to the actual king shocks location since they are local to me for some new shock shafts since the shocks I had were pitted to hell. While asking about the shafts, I asked if I could get the fancy King shaft guards to prevent it from happening in the future. The guy kind of did an ehhh and said that honestly he'd recommend running some cheap boots like Daystars. When I voiced concern (from TW nonetheless) about the boots trapping moisture/grit and causing early seal failure and requiring sooner rebuilds, he said that it wasn't a concern and that lots of folks run them without issue. He could have easily upsold me some pricey shaft guards but made his honest recommendation. Been running them without issue myself, they were cheap af, and they show no signs of dry rot/splitting after a good time. It's what I'll be running from now on since I routinely fling rocks everywhere since my idea of choosing a good line on a technical trail is pressing the skinny pedal harder.
     
  9. Jul 24, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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    Those are a good find for sure! I was looking at my shafts yesterday and one of them is definitely gonna need replacing next time i rebuild them.
    Have you heard of anything for the front coilovers? I live on a rock road so id like to try to find something for those too if i could. Ive read mixed things about the covers like icon uses on theirs but i feel like they might be worth a try.
     
  10. Jul 24, 2021 at 8:21 PM
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    Haven't tried them yet and my fronts haven't shown any signs of significant pitting yet. I've been curious about them too. Just like the Daystars, I wonder how the icons would hold up. They are a bit pricier so I haven't cemented the idea of trying them out yet. Maybe next time I pull the coilovers for a rebuild I'll play with the idea more
     
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  11. Jul 25, 2021 at 5:48 AM
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  12. Jul 28, 2021 at 5:31 AM
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    Have you set your mind to which turbo you're going to get?

    Which turbo may change the turbine inlet flange. From T3, T4, 2.5" V‐band, or 3" v-band sizes.

    Let's discuss.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2021 at 10:44 AM
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    No sir i sure haven't, i need to do some more research on this, but i am leaning towards a v-band either way, just because i have fought exhaust leaks in the past and dont feel like dealing with that again.

    What would your recommendation be for a turbo to push the limits with the stock bottom end? I'd like to be as close to 375-400 crank hp as possible without giving up too much low end torque, but i know that it's ultimately a compromise. I'll be honest, i have a lot to learn when it comes to turbos, so any advice you can lend would be greatly appreciated. I'm willing to pay more for a good quality compressor if it means it will spool a little quicker, and just for reliability sake since this is my daily.
     
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    I think i may give these a go next time i rebuild mine. At first glance it looks like some of the resi 90* fittings might interfere, but nothing too bad i dont think

    Good afternoon John! Have a good one brother:cheers:
     
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    Look at the G Series Garrett turbos, and the Borg Warner EFR turbos.

    One of the perks of the BW EFR's is that they can have both integrated BOV and W/G.
     
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    I've got that TD05H 16G "big" turbo you're welcome to for a couple bucks and shipping.
     
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    I am thinking the G25-550, for OEM style spool. Or the BW EFR equivalent.

    The G25-550, I believe only comes in a 3.5" outlet.

    The BW's all come in 3" outlets.
     
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    I was doing some reading on this, and i was wondering if an external wastegate would be better for more/easier adjustability? It looks like the internal wastegate is easier with packaging and not needing additional piping but there are trade offs. Is there one or the other you'd recommend based on your past experiences? I am not really sure which way to go

    I think i am going to continue to use my HKS BOV for now and just redo the piping on the hot side if that would work. Do you see any issue with this? i see where you mentioned the BW EFRs have an integrated BOV. If i was to go this route, would i just cap off my current one and use that?

    I appreciate the offer buddy, i might take you up on this, but i am going to have to do some more research. Which one did you end up going with for your build? I am leaning towards just breaking down and buying a good one that has some room to grow for when i eventually build the motor down the road.

    Howdy John :cheers:

    i did some more looking into this today and i have been eyeing the BW EFR 7163 with a .85 A/R. Does that seem too big for what i want to do? I still dont fully understand what would be best, i just know the bigger the A/R the slower the spool but it has more top end potential. The G25-550 i was considering was a .72 A/R but i'm not sure how much of a difference that would make.

    That is a good point on the outlet size of the G25-550. So if i went that route i'd need to go with some type of reducer to run from the 3.5" to 3" exhaust that i plan on doing. Both of the turbos above use a 3" v-band inlet i believe in the configuration discussed. Question on that.. Is there a big performance loss running a v-band inlet vs doing a t3 or something that you could use for a twin scroll setup? Sorry for all the questions lol. I am trying to learn as much as i can here and this is all very new to me

    Specs/measurements:
    EFR 7163-F(v).pdf (bwauto.com)
    G25-550_G25-660_flange-diagram.pdf (garrettmotion.com)
    G-Series G25-550 The Most Powerful Small Frame Turbocharger - Garrett (garrettmotion.com)
     
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