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Battery recomendation

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by William H. Bonney, Nov 20, 2022.

  1. Nov 20, 2022 at 3:36 PM
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    William H. Bonney

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    108k with OEM battery, it’s finally starting to quit. I heard optima isn’t a solid choice anymore. I don’t have any extra electronics, might add a winch to my bumper though sometime soon. Any recommendations?
     
  2. Nov 20, 2022 at 3:42 PM
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    William H. Bonney

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    Is there a good place to buy them? Will a deep cycle help in the winter?
     
  5. Nov 20, 2022 at 4:06 PM
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    I always thought that a marine/deep cycle was a poor choice for a truck battery.

    On their pro side, marine batteries not only have a greater amp hour rating than starter batteries, but they can safely discharge to a lower rate. With these batteries you can regularly use up to 80% of their charge capacity without significantly shortening their life. Or in other words, discharge from 12.9V (100% full) to 11.9V (20%). Compare that to a regular old starter battery that you absolutely shouldn't let it discharge below 50% (12.3V) and ideally, keep it above 80% (12.7V). Therefore on a typical group 24 marine with a 65 Ah capacity, you are squeezing 52 Ah or 650Wh out of a single charge. And that's way more than most campers need. And again compare that to a starter battery with "120 minute reserve capacity" (50 Ah) which would be an effective mere 25 Ah or 260Wh before hitting the 50% mark.

    On the minus side, and why I think they are not ideal, is that in the real world your deep cycle is going to have a short life span. A good G24 marine has 550 CCA, while a typical starter has 750. Rule of thumb is that a well treated battery loses 10% of it's cranking amps per year. And going by the very unscientific but oft repeated rule of thumb of 2CCA per cubic inch, you need a minimum of 425 amps to turn the 3.5 motor. Notice how your marine suddenly has a little over 2 years of theoretical life versus a hair over 5 years for a standard starter.


    That's why I hate deep cycles. TLDR: a deep cycle might have twice the effective reserve, but half the effective lifespan. You would be replacing batteries twice as quickly.
    If you're really needing the extra capacity, run a temporary second battery for your accessories. But that's me and my weird opinions.
     
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    My battery gave me the sign it is time to replace it last week. I will be replacing it with a quality direct replacement. The factory one has lasted a little over 5 years and 76,800kms. I could probably go another few months but it's starting to get cold now... better to change now then when the truck won't start.
     
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    The Walmart Maxx batteries have a three year free replacement warranty. Made by Johnson Controls....I've had very good service from them.
     
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    East Penn/Deka is what I would go with. Made outside of Allentown, PA.
     
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    Thats exactly why I’m doing it. Truck sat for two days in what I consider warm winter weather…20-30ish and it was dead as a door nail. Took half the noco charger to get it started.
     
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    you are a wealth of knowledge! Thank you for explaining that to me I would have never known. And I’ll take all this into consideration when I decide on my next battery tomorow
     
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    is that a good or a bad thing that you would need service on a three year battery
     
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    I went with a Die Hard Platinum 24f. If you go with the regular lead acid it's a 4 year free replacement. The AGM is 3 year free replacement. They sell them at Car Quest/Advance or Firestone. I'm in Arizona where the heat eats batteries so the 4 year free replacement was a no brainer for me. The factory battery didn't even make it 1.5 years on my '20. Now I'm covered for 4 years and don't have to worry about going back to the dealer. I'll probably swap that thing out a couple times in 4 years.
     
  19. Nov 21, 2022 at 7:29 AM
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    I didn't say that I needed service in three years, but that I got good service out of those batteries. And a three year free replacement warranty is good in my book.
     

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