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BECAUSE FENDER FLARE!

Discussion in 'HomerTaco' started by HomerTaco, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM
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    HomerTaco

    HomerTaco [OP] That "grill guy" Vendor

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    Here's why:

    I had been toying around with the idea of developing a new fender flare for my second gen.

    There are limited options for what is available as an alterative to the stock flares - Basically Bushwhacker "pocket" style flares and a Canadian outfit known as "Jungle Flare"

    I have misgivings with both from research and also having the opportunity to see & feel both products first hand.

    For the Bushwhacker:
    My main complaint is the stupid exposed bolts! For shits sake they are only on there for looks! They serve NO OTHER FUNCTION! Now - I don't think the look bad... But they should still DO something.
    This flare retains the stock inner fender mounting holes which is not compatible to my plans...
    However - they are ABS thermoplastic construction, which is essentially the same as our stock flares - that is an advantage I'll explain later.

    For the Jungle Flare:
    The issue here is with fitment. They are a fiberglass flare and the finish I saw was nice but the fit was not 100%. Being fiberglass, modification of these to suit my plans was not an option.

    For many Members who have upgraded to a larger-than-stock tire (bigger than 265/75 r16 or equivalent) the issue of rubbing and clearance comes into play.

    Some have chosen to modify the stock flares to compensate for needed space (n0rth, maxmillion2345) some have chosen to eliminate them altogether (Mr.Grimm).

    I have nothing but the utmost respect for these members builds and it was through reading them that I started to formulate a plan for a different solution.

    I recently purchased a set of Bushwhacker flares from another member. :spy:

    Now the fun begins..... :drevil:

    On a recent trip to RC I had a rogue tree attack me for no reason...:(

    [​IMG]

    Now... instead of looking at this as a problem, I chose to see it as an opportunity!:D

    Now I have a valid excuse to Mrs.Taco for the purchase new fender flares!

    :yay:

    My current suspension setup is as follows:
    Front: 5100's set at 2.25 with stock coils
    Rear: 5100's and a non-tsb leaf pack w/ Wheelers 3leaf Progressive AAL

    Nothing to crazy - just a couple inches up from stock.

    I want to go to 285's

    I obviously have no problem cutting up the truck....:rolleyes:

    End Result of Thought Process:

    Fabricate a custom fender flare that mounts from the outside and allows for removal of approx. 2" of sheet metal off of the stock fender.:cool:

    Disclamer: ***This is simply an experiment at this point still...***

    So far, here is where I'm at:

    Front passenger flare with silly 2012 bumper piece removed:
    [​IMG]

    Here are all the silly "show-bolts" from both front & rear of one side...
    [​IMG]

    Side by side comparison of the stock passenger rear flare (left) vs. the Bushwhacker
    [​IMG]

    My preliminary marking on the back of the flare for what would be removed:
    [​IMG]

    My goal is to retain the extended coverage of the flare over the tires but add clearance in the fender well itself.

    I intend to seek out alternate hardware to replace the "show-bolts" and use them to fasten the flare from the outside. This would eliminate the need to fasten the flare from the inner fender which I want to modify anyway.

    I've become rather adept at plastic fabrication. I've built a couple of grills you see...:rolleyes:

    This is a work in progress and I've got some time off due to the recovery for surgery so I intend to make good use of it. (besides building grills -I'm still doing that!)

    I'd welcome any feedback, tips, or questions.

    As with some of my other threads here on TW - I'm here to learn things too. :D

    More to come....

    Thank you,
    ~ Craig
     
  2. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:50 PM
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    colinb17

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    About time Craig :popcorn:
     
  3. Jul 13, 2012 at 5:55 PM
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    98tacoma27

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  4. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM
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    maxamillion2345

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    I cut mine roughly 2" and I rub the front flares EVER so SLIGHTLY. I'd love to see 2 1/4 or 2 1/2". The other Max, TheDuck911, did his 3" if you haven't seen them, they're in my thread somewhere, they look good.

    Just saying...

    I'm very excited to see the outcome of this. I've often wondered would would happen if I got in a wreck and destroyed my 6-700 dollar custom flares!

    Very cool!
     
  5. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM
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    HomerTaco

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    Yeah.... :eek:
    They've been sitting here waiting for me for a while now... :rolleyes:
    Thank you for the vote of confidence Ben! ;)
     
  6. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM
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    HomerTaco

    HomerTaco [OP] That "grill guy" Vendor

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    I knew there were a few others.... I could not remember.:eek:

    All of the efforts of you guys is inspiration to me.

    I simply want a better way to install a flare on my truck then with those stupid effing plastic cheap ass clips!:mad:

    I know you know where I'm coming from.;)
     
  7. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:09 PM
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    Rich91710

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    Don't you have some grilles you should be working on? :p

    Seriously... I'm with you. I never "got" the idea of "pocket flares". I remember when they started showing up, and I always thought they looked like cheap bolt-on aftermarket parts and thought they'd look better glassed in.

    Looking forward to seeing your finished fenders!
     
  8. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:09 PM
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    theduck911

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    3" seems to be the perfect amount from what I've seen (when running a 35" tire) if you plan on running a flare. 2" will work if you are only planning on cutting up the fender and not running a flare.

    Definitely interested to see how this turns out, after seeing your skills with Grille making, have no doubt this will have the same quality:thumbsup:
     
  9. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:14 PM
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    maxamillion2345

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    I certainly do know, I hate those damn clips.

    Yeah, Relentless, All.On.Black, theduck911, me, n0rth, donnoD (he just cut his). I can't think of anyone else. Anyway! Looking forward to it.



    I'm running 2" :brianr: :cookiemonster:
     
  10. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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    HomerTaco

    HomerTaco [OP] That "grill guy" Vendor

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    As of now I intend to remove 2" from the fender flare and fender itself and then install them.

    I currently have 265/75 r16 but will bump up to a 285/75 r16

    At least that's my preliminary plan...:eek:

    Once I drank the kool-aid and took a dremmel to my truck for that snorkel install, any other cutting just does not seem like a big deal... :notsure:

    I may be just me - but I don't think so... :cool:
     
  11. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:17 PM
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    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

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    Hurry up
     
  12. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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    HomerTaco

    HomerTaco [OP] That "grill guy" Vendor

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    :laughing:

    from the guy who purchased the first piece of mesh ever from me - then bought a whole grill a few months later..... :laughing:

    What's the rush Pete? :rolleyes:
     
  13. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

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    Hahaha

    I still have that mesh :cool:
     
  14. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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    HomerTaco

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    cover the holes in the relentless bumper... ;)
     
  15. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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  16. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM
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    For 285/75 you should be fine for any clearance!

    Yeah, I still haven't installed my snorkel :eek: wasn't sure about drilling my fenders...a few months later I just took a grinder to my whole truck and did a bunch of cutting :rolleyes:
     
  17. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:27 PM
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    theduck911 Max's Canadian Twin

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    You don't say :rolleyes: :p
     
  18. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:28 PM
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    HomerTaco

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    I may go the 315 route if I can snag a DD.:cool:

    Then I'll do a 1"BL as well as suspension...

    work in progress...
     
  19. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:31 PM
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  20. Jul 13, 2012 at 6:32 PM
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