Benefits of a 17in wheel vs 16in

Would help make for the easiest suspension swap ever.

 

The wisdom of calling tires “wheels?” No thanks I’m good.

The OP asked about 17” wheels. As in the metal part inside the tires. Nobody runs 17” tires on a Tacoma and larger metal wheels don’t “step over” obstacles better, larger diameter rubber tires step over obstacles better regardless of the size of the wheels inside.

 

20x12s

 

1000s of Tacoma Sports have 17" wheels. I doubt if they have all replace them for a smaller set.

rim + tire = wheel.

You can't run a tire without a rim. You can't run a rim without a tire. Both are needed to make a wheel.

In this discussion wheel has been equated to have the same meaning as rim.

 

Yes. And a factory off road and a factory sport have the same overall diameter tires and roll over obstacles exactly the same even though one has 16” wheels and the other 17” wheels.

 

Disagree.

The wheels are the same diameter. The rims are different diameter.

So, Yes, the two will "step" over obstacles with similar efficiency.

 

Not technically correct, see my previous post.

 

Well. Y'all call 'em what you want.

I know a wheel without a tire will not handle well.
I know a tire without a wheel will be difficult to mount on a vehicle.
What do your call a wheel with a tire? Wheel?

Over the years.....wheel has been muddled to mean rim. The difference is usually inferred from context.

Good luck all of you running on bare (minus tire) wheels.

I know in the engineering world when a wheel is discussed, it is known to be a rim + tire. Rim is a separate part of the wheel. Tire is a separate part of the wheel.

Merry Christmas to all. Or Happy Holidays to others.

 

This thread is 3 days early

 

Pretty sure these are referred to as rimz

Do you rotate you tires or wheels? Also, you should write a letter to tire rack because they refer to that metal piece in the middle as a wheel and the rubber part as a tire (along with most anyone that understands the difference between a rim and wheel).

 

I rotate my wheels as an assembly which moves both the rim and tire to a different location. If I were to "rotate the tires", then I would need to remove the tire from the rim and install it on a different rim.

Common nomenclature is to "rotate the tires".

There are many examples of common terms that are not correct. Example: "Make a xerox of this page." actually means to make a copy. It would be silly to refuse to make it on a Savin copier.....its not a xerox. Although, Xerox has been incorporated into the Merrium dictionary.

 

So many people arguing about "wheels" vs "rims," when convenient screenshots indicating that "wheels are the metal part" have already been posted. More importantly, "rims" sounds stupid.

Also I will die on this hill.

 

Nobody refers to a rim/tire package as a wheel. Nobody. And everybody knows that rim and wheel mean the same thing. LMAO, now we're getting a lecture on the proper use of the word "Xerox." Ignored.

 

@Knute, once you're done correcting Tire Rack, please send a letter to Toyota because the brochure incorrectly lists wheels when they should say rims.....

 

Nope, rim has been muddled to mean wheel. Even in the days to the Oregon trail and covered wagons a wheel was a wheel and a rim was part of the wheel attached by spokes to the hub.

Just because something is used incorrectly in the engineering world doesn't make it correct.

Take a moment and read the link below so you can use the term correctly and win internet fights...or keep coming back claiming that everyone else is wrong and I'll dig up another company that uses wheel incorrectly for you to send a letter to.
https://tiredealersites.com/rims-vs-wheels-what-is-the-difference/




And back on topic, 17" wheels have more sizes available in lighter load ranges and will clear BBK. 16" wheels will give you a 1/2" more sidewall between the lip and ground when running the same height tire (265/70/17 vs 265/75/16 for example) and, when running the same tires on a 16" wheel and 17" wheel, the 16" setup it will be lighter.

 

Agreed.

Honestly, I'm in the "engineering world"... And it's not used the way he's using it. I'm not sure what he's talking about--maybe in some circles, but in general I'd say he's incorrect, both in the "engineering world" and elsewhere. We use "rim", "wheel", and "tire" how I described earlier.

And this is the internet, beating dead horses is probably what we do best.

 

It's known to be one of the first mods to do to motorcycles. More feel, less sponginess right off the bat. Large Co's. like Toyo. are not going to put 100 dollar brake lines on mass produced vehicles, although I do find them to be better than domestics. Used to anyway. I haven't seen one pop in a while.

 

I clicked on this thread, read a few posts and immediately regret the decision.

Holy shit batman.

 

For offroading purposes, I want a smaller wheel and as much rubber as possible.

 

I said it once I’ll say it again!

WIMs and RHEELs! Y’all know what each other mean! It’s petty to argue!

Neither side is going to be educated! No matter how valid any point is going to be!

Hug it out!

But, then again... it’s tradition and ya don’t fuck with tradition!