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Best 8.4 locker for 2004 Tacoma

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Tacotuesday04, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Feb 18, 2016 at 3:22 PM
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    Having had a selectable and an auto locker, a selectable is definitely preferable if you do a lot of street driving. Especially so if you drive your truck in heavy rain or snow, where an auto locker can be unpredictable.

    IMO go full selectable or stay open for a truck that sees both street and trail usage.
     
  2. Feb 18, 2016 at 4:03 PM
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    The 8.4 is such a mis-nomer. It's still an 8" ring gear, just like the TRD 8.0. Literally there is no difference in the size of the ring gear. The TRD obviously has an electronic locker, which is a giant piece of shit. Getting it to engage/disengage is a mild attempt at defeating down syndrome. The 8.4 has a stronger carrier and you can add an ARB locker.
    The ARB is dependent on a competent source of air (be it CO2, nitrogen, or an air compressor). If you have a fault in the air line, you loose your locker. Foresight on where you run the air lines is key to not having a "fuck me" moment. Keep it away from the exhaust lines and snagging on trail shit and you'll be fine. I carry an air line repair kit that has been in my toolbox for years and never used. As well as an adapter for my CO2 tank in the event my compressor takes a shit. But the simple fact is, you flip the switch and the locker engages. None of this driving in circles or figure 8 bull shit. I've kicked mine on at 50+ mph and it just works.
     
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  3. Feb 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM
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    ARB updated their lockers because of past issues of blowing o rings. Personally id prefer ARB i have had a lockrite i enjoyed also though
     
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    Does the Detroit wear out tires and handle awful in snow or is it not that bad
     
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    I had a detroit in the rear for a while. It's a great locker and can be manipulated if you have a manual transmission and works fucking great on trails.
    That said...the first time I went back to the bay area, I threw my hands up and said "fuck this" and changed it to a selectable locker.
     
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    I live in Maine so would the Detroit not be a good idea especially with an auto trans
     
  7. Feb 18, 2016 at 4:30 PM
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    Because I really don't have the money for arb
     
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    Any time you are on the throttle in a corner it kicks in. I wouldn't recommend it for a DD. That said, if you are diligent with the throttle it will totally work. But there is certainly mental training involved. And fuck your life if you are drunk and ask the misses to drive home while it's raining.
     
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    In the title of this thread, you asked for whats BEST . . . . are you now looking for whats CHEAPEST ?
    Why do you want a locker in the first place? That will have a lot to do with your choice.

    You'll get lots of different opinions on both. In the rear axle, I currently have a Detroit TruTrac (gear-driven LSD).

    In the past, I've had an ARB (in front), Detroit Locker (in rear), and TRD LSD (in both front and rear), all on a crawler/DD. We all have different personal preferences and needs for the offroading we do.

    ARB is the most expensive one you can get, and Powertrax (non-selectable automatic) is likely the cheapest. AFAIK, they all are of good quality and each one has advantages and disadvantages.
     
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    Just get a Spartan and call it a day if you are really going to wheel. I don't think the ARB is $700 better and I have one in the rear of my truck now. Had a Spartan in my third gen 4Runner as a DD in northern Illinois and central Indiana. I.E. Plenty of snow and I never really noticed it as a detrimental thing besides the noise and occasional binding. I actually like it in the snow because you didn't diff out in 2wd while turning out into traffic.
     
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    I guess I am looking for more of a product review because I can get the arb in a couple months but I would rather not spend 1200 dollars because there is other things I want to buy, and I have heard that they break a lot, however I have heard good reviews about the Detroit off road but not much about them on road. and by best I should have mentioned best in mud and snow because that is what I will mostly be doing with it. it is also my daily. And lastly I am not sure where I can mount an air compressor because my engine bay already has a winch controll box in it
     
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    In short, one I can install and not worry about it, it's drivable on the road, and will get me out of a hole
     
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    2" coil spacers in front, 1.5" lift blocks in rear with 285/75/r16s. Painfully stock.
    And of course do posi rubber burnouts :rofl:
     
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    Take it from a guy who has snow and mud and shit on the road 3 months out of the year. The Detroit is great, but it pissed me off on road so much that I got rid of it and paid for a selectable locker. I have no problem advocating or decimating what I spend my money on based on my requirements. And I will never put a Detroit in another street or DD truck.

    It's your money and your decision. I know a selectable is more money, but it's more for good reason. Save up and get what you really need, or pay extra like me and try to get by on the cheap and realize you fucked up.
     
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    Alright so arb sounds like the best for me because it will literally be driven every day and wheeled on the weekends
     
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    Save up and do it right the first time. I highly recommend following jberry's advice.
     
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    Nobody cares.
    Jberry is a judgemental opinionated asshole.
     
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    Better? :cookiemonster:
     
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    It's a start. :thumbsup:
     
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