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Best front and rear combination to get 2.5 inches of lift and good ride quality

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by YotaLover2864, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Apr 23, 2019 at 11:46 AM
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    :notsure: I probably run less psi than others, might be why I don't heat my shocks up too much even over extended desert runs. Beadlocks FTW. :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Apr 23, 2019 at 12:14 PM
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  3. Apr 23, 2019 at 12:35 PM
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    Well we were talking about overheating shocks and you said that an IFP wasn't a surprise and that why they make resi shocks

    So I assumed you were talking about heat dissipation. But again, its about control mostly not really heat so overheating an IFP Coilover vs a resi one won't take much more effort.

    Just want to nip the rumor in the butt in this thread before someone claims resi's help with overheating shocks. They don't, not really. Not enough to lay claim to that being their purpose.
     
  4. Apr 23, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    Do you care to elaborate on your statement to the class then being your trying to clarify a rumor and what the purpose/benefit of a resi is?
     
  5. Apr 23, 2019 at 12:57 PM
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    ......





    You...you didn't watch the video did you?
     
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  6. Apr 23, 2019 at 1:09 PM
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    Bilstein 5100's have a shock body diameter of 1.95". What is the official definition of "2.0 shock"?
     
  7. Apr 23, 2019 at 2:12 PM
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    The one where he compared an emulsion shock to a reservoir?

    Not impressed.

    [​IMG]

    You're right. You should go to a 3.0. No other solution.

    I'll be honest in saying I don't have enough knowledge on the 5100s to have an in depth conversation. Maybe someone with more info can chime in.

    This was fun for the last few posts but I'm going to bow out. I'd advise the OP to do a lot of research on the discussed topics and best of luck!
     
  8. Apr 23, 2019 at 2:36 PM
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    mm :rolleyes:
     
  9. Apr 23, 2019 at 3:37 PM
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    The difference/benefit between an emulsion shock and a reservoir shock wasn’t even on the table. If you find that video to have validity to our discussion then I’m going to move on with my day and let bad information be passed along.
     
  10. Apr 23, 2019 at 10:56 PM
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    Tw: “Resi’s don’t help with oil volume and cooling”

    King: “buy these 3.0 finned resi’s for added cooling”

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    TW: 65609696-258F-474C-A74F-FA79849C4AD0.jpg
     
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  11. Apr 23, 2019 at 11:35 PM
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    Reservoirs aren't for cooling. Reservoirs move the nitrogen chamber and IFP outside of the main shock body, allowing for a shorter overall length of the shock as well as permitting a larger volume of nitrogen to lower pressure to aid ride quality.

    Finned reservoirs do aid cooling for those that actually race their junk, for everyone else it's just bling.
     
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    Thank you.

    Someone who actually has paid attention.
     
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  13. Apr 23, 2019 at 11:41 PM
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    :rofl:i like to watch the shit shows and see where they go before adding to it.
     
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  14. Apr 23, 2019 at 11:42 PM
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    I chose to not try explaining something that was already explained. haha
     
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    Idk who said anything about reservoirs being for cooling. If cooling is going to be on the list of reservoir benefits it'll be minuscule at best. That's why the King finned resis are such a joke. I'm sure they have a slight benefit for cooling but you have to be performing at such a level where you take what you can get.

    I agree with your statement. I cant speak for the difference in nitrogen volume between IFP and reservoir as I don't have that information but it is an interesting observation.

    If you want cooling capabilities then add something that's designed to do just that.

    [​IMG]


    You never explained anything so don't jump on his coat tail and act like you added to the conversation. You posted a video that compared and emulsion shock, one where nitrogen and oil are mixed, to a reservoir shock, one where the nitrogen and oil are separate, and made the claim that there is a difference in "control."

    Nobody was talking about an emulsion shock. We were discussing an IFP shock, one where the nitrogen and oil are separated inside the main tube, which your video never elaborated on. I'll wait... :burp:
     
  16. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:06 AM
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    I don't understand why we're getting so upset here. Wait, yes I do, its the internet...

    To clarify, you made some comments to the effect of "for MT, 2.5 on the front and 2.0 on the rear are all you need"

    I believe that it depends on how you drive, what terrain you drive, how long you drive, etc... 2.0's (or 1.95's) did not cut it for me. Bilsteins use IFP design just as the Fox 2.0's :notsure:

    Monte faded his front 2.5" CO's and bought a pair of ADS that are almost as expensive as the 3.0's (and some outrageous stock lenght LCA's) but the way he wheels, I'm sure he'll get his money's worth :notsure:

    Your idea that you don't need better shocks on an MT setup can be misleading, just saying.

    Anyways, its hard to take you as credible when you say "5100s are not a 2.0 shock. they are smaller and don't have nearly the oil capacity of a 2.0 w/ resi" then say "I'll be honest in saying I don't have enough knowledge on the 5100s to have an in depth conversation" :oops:

    Take a breath, relax, and calm down a bit. Stop taking everyone's opinions as personal attacks to your preferences.
     
  17. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    In all honestly, I really don't care what you think of my credibility and I'm not taking any of this personal. This started as more of an amusing conversation over 3.0s for me because I was bored.

    I'm 100% am with you in saying it depends on how you drive, type of terrain, how long you drive... I was making a generalized statement for the purpose of the Ops question. Don't take my statement out of context by saying you don't need "better" shocks. "Better" is simply subjective to the user.

    I'm not above admitting when I don't know something, such as my 5100 statement. You're free to build your truck how you want. I simply can't stand when bad information is passed around.
     
  18. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:51 AM
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    Ok. But no bad information was passed around. Besides, if you can't stand for bad information on the internet, you're gonna have a bad time on Tacomaworld.

    Goodluck :thumbsup:
     
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    Well then, how about that NFL draft....
     
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