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Better tie down rail?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by tacoguy88, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Apr 15, 2018 at 4:55 PM
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    Hi everybody, I just joined and Im trying to find an improvement for the stock, flimsy, tie down rails. I have seen a couple rails that look good, one in particular is the core trax tie down track.
    https://www.google.com/search?sourc...64.psy-ab..1.10.859.0..0i131k1.63.RmKssP2Tfgs
    my question is does this work well with the composite bed? how would you mount it? seems like getting up under the rear quarter panel or in front of the bed to mount something like this would be really hard if even possible. nutserts or even rivets seem like a plausible option but would those even work in the plastic, or whatever technical term you would like to use, bed? Ideally whatever option I end up going with I would like to use a backing plate along the whole thing on the back side, don't know if that's even possible or if theres supports or anything to get in the way. I have searched this to death both on here and google and cant find anything specific to tacomas, particularly third gen. not sure if the 2nd gens have the same exact bed or not. anyone know how the stock rails are mounted? Is it just a bolt with a washer and nut on the other side? thanks in advance.
     
  2. Apr 15, 2018 at 4:58 PM
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    Never heard the rails called flimsy before. Thats a new one
     
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    What kinds of cargo do you plan to secure?
     
  4. Apr 15, 2018 at 5:30 PM
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    dirt bikes. I mean lots of other things like ATVs, furniture, a pressure washer, a snow blower here and there and other normal truck things from time to time but I'm mainly worried about dirt bikes. With the stock cleat secured I can get the cleat/rail to flex with just my hand. maybe its the bed that's flimsy but either way the setup as a whole isn't impressive, like my outgoing frontier was. Don't get me wrong, I love the taco and is superior to the frontier in almost every way except when it comes to hauling things.
     
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    There's a nice one in the Nissan Frontier. I have a couple of leftover pieces from when I had one. Really thick aluminum. Probably the only great thing about that truck, other than the ridiculously smooth 4.0 V6 (that was going to eat its nylon chain guides at 60,000). If I had a full set I would swap them in a heartbeat.

    https://www.nissanusa.com/experience-nissan/news-and-events/truck-bed-utili-track-cargo-system.html

    And I agree, the Tacoma rails are a flimsy attempt to compete with one of the few great innovations Nissan came out with.
     
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    Tie them to the hooks you have on the floor of your bed if you have them. Zero issues with that. anything else that is self supportive but just needs to be restrained could be tied the the rails, like a pressure washer (which i have also hauled around but never bothered to take a picture of)
    if you dont have the hooks there I'd put those in before messing around with the rail.

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    Im guessing you didn't see the my post right before you posted this. I traded a frontier in for my Taco. I loved those rails. Any Idea where to buy them? BTW, that engine was the other great thing about that truck, much stronger than the 3.5 in the taco. not a single problem with that engine for the 120,000 miles I owned it. unfortunately I cant say the same about the rest of the truck.

    I don't know how you tied down two bikes. Theres only tie downs in each corner on the side at the front. Btw the only hooks on the floor in in the back.
     
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    The rails are the one thing I’ve always felt Nissan did MUCH better than toyota! Love the actual rails and the floor rails. Nissan definitely hit a home run with the rails!
     
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    You can add a rail to the front by getting one from a 2nd Gen.
     
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    ok, but then I will have a subpar stock rail. from what I see its the same rail as the sides. the whole point to this thread is to find a better option than stock, no offense.
     
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    Right, I was just throwing it out as a possible option.
     
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    Get a shop to fabricate you a set of thicker rails. Don't think a better option exists if that is your goal.
     
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    Tough the beat Nissan's setup. The bed, tail gate and tie downs are way overkill on them which is great. I had issues securing two 250cc bikes in my 2nd gen Tacoma, the cargo rails seemed "ok" but as I cinched the straps down the front panel of the bed bowed towards the cab. Had it as tight as I was comfortable with and the bikes didn't feel all that secure. The tail gate also bowed slightly after maybe 6 rides, glad they improved that over the years.

    I'd add some nice big tie down rings to the bed floor, make sure they have a decent backing plate. The bed rails just aren't great with vertical forces.
     
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    Add a front bed rail then get a set of the corner braces that connects the front to the side. I've used these for a long time and never had an issue even with big motorcycles in the bed. Very solid mounting point.
     
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    Have you looked into L-Track? Lots of possibilities there.
     
  20. Apr 18, 2018 at 9:59 AM
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    you dont think a better option than the taco exists?

    does anyone know where you can buy the frontier oem rails? Also, do nutserts or rivets work well with the composite bed?
     

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