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BFG AT KO2 in the snow

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by joejm14, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Nov 14, 2018 at 11:36 AM
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    TacoPlatter

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    I run the Nokian Hakka R2's. These are a dedicated winter tire and need to be changed out seasonally. The traction -- especially in wet snow and ice when you are the most vulnerable -- is impressive. Don't be fooled, they don't present with big off road style tread, but they are the real thing. I also find them to be a good road tire on dry pavement in the winter. Nokian also has options you can run year around that provide great winter traction -- expect about 50K with the year around tires. My wife runs a set of Nokian SUV tires on her Highlander year around and they are excellent tires.
     
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  2. Nov 14, 2018 at 11:52 AM
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    The Wildpeaks are excellent in the rain, looking forward to seeing how they do in the snow.
     
  3. Nov 14, 2018 at 11:55 AM
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    My AT3's have done well in everything except mud. The AT3's have no business being in mud that is thick (like partial clay almost)
     
  4. Nov 14, 2018 at 12:02 PM
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    Pirate1975

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    This past Spring I left work in my stock Kevlars. Didn’t put it in 4x4 on the way home. It wasn’t but a couple inches of fresh snow but was impressed.
    Have about 8k on my Duratracs and will hopefully know this winter. I was torn between KO2 and Duratracs. Heard a lot of positive on the Goodyear surprisingly and have a friend that was running them on his JK. I would like a KM3, but prefer a C over an E since I am not heavy..
     
  5. Nov 14, 2018 at 12:06 PM
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    BF Goodrich Winter KSI. Dedicated winter tire. Neccessary for slush/ice in GTA and Great for packed snow in northern ontario. Recommend this tire.
     
  6. Nov 14, 2018 at 12:31 PM
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    stealthmode

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    I ran E KO2s before C. Never going E again
     
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  7. Nov 14, 2018 at 1:22 PM
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    Just got the Cs and the ride is so much better and I got a lot of my get-up and go.
     
  8. Nov 14, 2018 at 1:49 PM
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    Daily driving and cold wet have been fine. Dont notice any noise increase over stock and I think they are better at not-hydroplaning than stock. Did notice 1.5 MPG decrease (from 22.5 to 21) but that was expected going into it. The storm this week was only 3-4 inches of compacted slush on the roads and they definitely threw the traction control on take off but didn't have much issue once I got going (and engaged 4wd for the rest of my drive). I expect to see 6-7 inches the end of this week and will know more then. I suspect they will be great in dry snow, slush is always the hardest.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM
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    If I lived again in the mountains I probably would not use KO2’s in the winter, they really dont do that well, and as mentioned before the rubber on them gets hard and they don’t release packed snow easily from between the lugs, so they get slippery. Id use studded snow tires and then switch to KO2’s during the warmer seasons.

    Out here in the desert, KO2’s are great,
    especially on rocky dirt roads.
     
  10. Nov 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM
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    From the reviews I have read, the at3ws seem to perform better in wet conditions than the ko2s.
     
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    I drive in the snow 7 months out of the year. I've had 2 sets of the original KO on two different trucks. They were by far the worst tires I've used as far as winter traction is concerned. I've had several other sets of all terrain tires that were much better, but no all terrain tire will have the capability of a dedicated winter tire. Ever. Now that I am putting on serious miles for work, I run a separate wheel/tire for winter. Winter tires are cheap. If you pound the pavement during winter months, they are worth their weight in gold.
     
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    The Mich Defender MS is much better than the AT in snow/icy conditions.
     
  13. Nov 14, 2018 at 3:16 PM
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    I've run 265/75r16 KO2 (and previously KOs) in the snow on my last four Tacomas. Around town I tend to air down to about 25/30psi—I like them because they're entirely predictable. I'm sure there's better AT snow rated tires, definitely better winter specific tires and absolutely better studded; but in the end, it comes down to the driver and experience.
     
  14. Nov 14, 2018 at 3:18 PM
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    I've only put about 8k miles on them so far, but my C-rated KO2s have been great here in Colorado so far in the snow (last season). The stock tires were terrible in my experience.
     
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    Will be my first winter back in a truck in many years. Looking forward to seeing how it does with the K2's.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2018 at 4:03 PM
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    Same. Swapping the KO2s for the Blizzaks tomorrow. True winter tires give you about 30% better stopping distance over something like a KO2. Sometimes six inches is the difference between slight puckering and a $10k insurance claim.

    The snowflake symbol on the KO2s doesn't mean very much. It just means that the tire tests out with about 10% better stopping distance than a comparable all season tire. The compound on a winter tire is totally different, at -15 deg C the KO2s are going to be as hard as hockey pucks, and it gets down to -30 C where I am.
     
  17. Nov 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM
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    I specified C rated KO2s but the dealer supplied E. I took delivery of the truck in December, so it was delivered with Blizzaks. I did not clue into the issue until April when I was loading the summer wheels into the truck. I think the 17" E tire/wheel package is 35 kg per corner, that is a hell of a lot of rotating mass on a truck that is not overpowered to begin with.

    Oh well, the 4 runner wheels and KO2s look like tits and if I wanted a Prius I would have bought one.
     
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  18. Nov 14, 2018 at 5:28 PM
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    Same here, I did chalk and set it at what I found appropriate. Solid tires in all conditions with proper inflation. Anything more than 35 and load E on such s light truck is just way to stiff.
     
  19. Nov 14, 2018 at 5:32 PM
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    Though call between the LTX at2 even the ms2 these tires are stunning. Had a set on a first gen and it was incredible, great siping. Michelin makes a great tire, but not a great OFFROAD tire.
     
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  20. Nov 14, 2018 at 11:45 PM
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    Havent tried siping KO2’s, but it would definitely help for winter and wet conditions, with some caveats though, like doing it by hand to help avoid lug chunking:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/should-i-sipe-my-new-bfg-t-a-kos.63299/
     
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