Big Tires on Stock Suspension ... I know ... again!

Has anyone found any sporty looking Load C 275 size tires for 17" rims? I've searched and found none so far.

 

Use mine lol
You have exquisite taste btw!!

 

Pics?

 

I’m a tire noob, so don’t take offense to my comment, I’m just wondering out loud (I’m here to learn); I’ve read tons of people on this forum saying that the 275/70/16’s and the 265/75/16’s don’t rub on the stock suspension, which you’re saying is untrue...but the example that you’re giving to disprove them is a different sized tire (17” rim)... have you run either of those two tires in a 16” size on a 3rd Gen stock suspension, or are you just guessing based on what they do with your 17’s?

 

There are better tires than BFG just sayin'

 

I'm saying no guarantee.

Yes you could maybe get lucky and not have them rub.
A lot of it can come down to your alignment. If you have high caster your wheel will be further forward avoiding the body mount.

I'm biased about the alignment. My truck has 17000km on it and just got my lift done and had a pre lift measurement done. My truck was way out of spec from factory.

I'm just saying there is no guarantee. With the 265 it will just be plastic to trim or mold out of the way. But 275 will be either control arm or bodmount.
It also depends how you use your truck. Many saying it doesn't rub haven't had their wheel at full lock under articulation. My tires only rubbed pulling out of my driveway at full lock or when off road with the suspension compressed.

 

Found this on YouTube.
33 inch ties stock suspension
https://youtu.be/HxDK1uS976Q

 

Interesting video, but again, it keeps me wondering how "the same" tire would run in a 16"... The video showed the areas that required trimming for a 33x12.5/17. I'm curious how much (if any) trimming would be necessary with a 255/85/16. It seems like there are more 3rd Gen Tacos with 16" rims than with 17", yet most of the rubbing complaints and videos I see are done with 17" wheels.

 

Interesting, must be difference in the tire. I had General Grabber AT2's in that size and didn't rub when I had stock suspension on.

 

The only reason they are rated so high on TR is they are the newest and coolest looking tire (also mose expensive) so who wants to down vote their new expensive purchase?

Truth is they are a mid-range tires, above average off road, below average on road, above average wear, average snow, below on hard packed or ice, and below in the rain. Should note they have a tendency (especially as they wear down) to have some hydro-planning issues in some cases. They use a C-shaped tread which is horrible for water evacuation (which is why any high performance rain tire has a V-shaped tread).

Honestly I would look at the AT3W's, they seem to be a better choice. Good looks, cheaper, good warranty, lighter to less an mpg hit, comparable in road noise (both will be louder than stock) and they are more geared towards winter climates; plus they come with less rose colored glasses hype behind them.

Also the Grabber AT2's have a similar tread pattern and style (but the tread isn't C-shaped so it is better at water evacuation), they are snow rated and studdable so even more winter rated. Plus it has the deepest P-rated tread out there (16/32's) which got me all around Moab and the white rim trail, Alpine loop and other trails with out an issue. Plus, their 2 ply sidewall is as thick and most others 3 ply as they use thicker 1500 denier poly vs many others 1000 (LT tires). Food for thought, though not much of a concern for mostly and winter use.

To each their own, they aren't number 1 because they are the best that's for sure it is most solely on looks and marketing hype...

Tyler

 

Yep, this is what I'm looking at doing to mine for the first mod, well that and along with some under-body armor.

 

Good info Tyler, thanks! You've actually helped further convince me that my next tire is going to be the BFG MT in 255/85/16. Everyone has different needs and desires, and the points you laid out match mine pretty well. The key thing you said for me is "above average wear". I'm assuming you mean for a mud tire, and that is my highest priority. With where I live and drive (Coastal Central CA), snow, rain, and ice, are pretty much a non-issue. I do come across them in my travels, but as far as ratio, it would be a fraction of a percent. My daily driver is a motorcycle, and I've ridden that on snow, rain, and ice, far more than I ever have a truck, so by comparison it'll be an improvement either way. I am sold on the size. If the same size came in the All Terrains, I would get those instead, but unfortunately it doesn't. I love the looks of both models of BF Goodrich, and I'd be lying if I said that looks were unimportant to me. I've read that the BFG MT, in this size, is better on hard rocky surfaces than it is in mud. That fits the type of terrain I drive in much more realistically. Even when I go "off-roading", I spend very little time on mud, and far more on dry, rocky surfaces.

 

I honestly find they are terrible once they get some KM on them. I had them on work trucks and hated them with a passion. They are great in terms of strength, have strong side walls and work perfect when towing. But when it came to anything else they were terrible

 

if I had money burning a hole in my wallet and considering where I live its snowing 8 months out of the year I would totally stud a pair of cooper ST maxxs and call it a day. ultimate snow/ice tire plus they perform amazing in mud and on rocks.

 

I'll be the oddball and stand by both General and Michelin. I don't buy tires for looks

 

I have KO2s and have made trips to Utah and Mammoth on snowy roads with excellent performance. Many other 4x4s were struggling and I would just blow by them. Any of the tires that have been mentioned are excellent tires. That said, the KO2s are a great choice so go with your preference OP.

 

I cant speak for KO2s but I ran the old BFG A/T for years, I eventually replaced them with Michelin LTX AT2s which in my opinion performed significantly better. Most people don't opt for them because they dont look "cool." But if I had to bet between the two it would be the Michelin.

Depending on your application an M/T will out perform an A/T in every category except pavement and hard snowpack.

 

If that was in response to my comment a couple posts up, you're misstating my remark; I never said I buy tires for looks, in fact I mentioned a number of other more important considerations. My comment was that I'd be lying if I said looks were unimportant. I don't think there is a person on this forum who has no regard for "looks"...that is different than it being the reason for buying something.

 

Not sure about the 275/70/16s but I am aware of many people running 265/75/16s on stock suspension with no rubbing. The main factor that will make a difference between rubbing and not rubbing is the wheel back-spacing and off-set.