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Bigger oil filter better?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by andbeyond, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Jan 4, 2018 at 7:40 PM
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    Key-Rei

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    Another great reason to stay the hell away from fram.

    If you like the grippy texture though try your favorite size flavor in purolator Pure One, they have a yellow grippy "300grit" like powder coating on them. :thumbsup:

    Personally I never understood why filters needed nuts and grippy bits, use fresh clean oil to lubricate the o-ring, run the filter down till the gasket touches all around, do 1 1/2-2 full turns then 1/4 turn counter clockwise to ensure the seal is flat not pulled and you're done, filters should be able to easily removed with your non dominate hand. You should be able to see space between the filter reciver base and filter body itself, usually 1/32 -1/16 of an inch.
     
  2. Jan 4, 2018 at 9:47 PM
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    My knowledge is limited, but Wikipedia says the S65 "Uses a wet-sump lubrication system with two electrically operated scavenging pumps and a main oil pump replaces the three-pump wet-sump system used on the V10.". I know Porsche racing engines like the flat six in the 911 GT3 use a dry-sump with an external oil reservoir system and many scavenging oil pumps, so no matter how fast and how extreme you drive it, you'll always have oil. Extraordinary engineering, 500hp from a naturally aspirated six cylinder. Maybe the BMW S65 uses wet-sump lubrication with additional scavenging pumps for improved performance? Cool stuff...
     
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  3. Jan 5, 2018 at 1:12 AM
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    Huh, well I'll have to look into it then! :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Jan 5, 2018 at 1:51 AM
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    Oil/filter threads are awesome! :bananadance:
     
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  5. Jan 5, 2018 at 5:07 AM
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    That is one purdy motor for 200k! Nice! Mine just busted 140k and runs like a top and is my daily driver for the time being. I just love me some Toyota!
     
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  6. Jan 5, 2018 at 5:18 AM
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    The S65 does indeed use 2 scavenging pumps. They are electric and do an amazing job under hard cornering w/ track tires keeping that car glued to the ground. It pulls some G's and I would imagine that the oil system would be starved if not for these.
     
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    I still use the OEM 'Yota filters......

    but I'm sure the Wix XP will work well too......

    have two 4.0L Tacos......pic...the '05

    B4 the 5100's....

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. May 19, 2019 at 6:38 PM
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    Just FYI - if you are using the common yzzd3 filter you are using an “oversized” filter anyway. The yzzd1 is what came stock.

    See the recommended fram size 3614 vs the oversized 3600.

    Same same.
     
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    A $ 23 oil filter? At that price you better get a hand job (a least) when you screw it in. I buy Toyota OEM filters on the web for about $ 5. That means I could change the filter 4 times during the 5,000 mile change interval and still be ahead cost wise.
     
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    they buy $23 oil filters and change the oil every 5k miles is a crackpot idea,
     
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    I guess it depends on your reason for wanting a larger filter. If you are following recommended service intervals with recommended oil, there is no need for a larger filter. But it sounds like you found some really cheap and want to save some money, so... generally if all the specs are the same as the original filter (thread size/pitch, ADBV yes/no, bypass pressure, filtration efficiency, etc), and it fits the mount without interfering with any suspension movement or anything else, and doesn't stick out too far and be vulnerable to damage... yes it's OK to use an oversize filter. Lots of people run oversize filters with upgraded oils in order to safely run longer oil change intervals, I'm doing this already. Keep in mind that oil filters are generally designed with some "headspace" (additional capacity) for those times when the maintenance can't be done exactly on time.
     
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