Biggest Tires for Stock 2023 TRD Sport

Hey guys. New to trucks and I'm not a wrench either so go easy on me.

I know there's a thread similar to this already but here I am. My "research" concluded that a 3rd gen TRD Sport with stock everything, could fit a 265/70/17 without rubbing at all (stock is 265/65/17).

Today, I had some Wildpeak AT4Ws installed and no it didn't rub anywhere on the WHEEL WELL or plastics, but it DID subtly touch and lift the upper control arm when turning the wheel inwards either direction close to full lock.

My impression is any rubbing is not favorable especially if you take it off-road.. but am I just over reacting and that this rubbing is "normal/common"?

I already returned them and they ordered me my 265/65/17s because I was paranoid and didn't want to damage anything. But did I make a mistske and should've kept the 70s because I could have just added some spacers? (Which I heard is still not the best option)

*if I uploaded the picture correctly, the small horizontal mark on the UCA that looks like grease the contact made from the bigger tire. (In the picture I already had my stock tires put back on because I forgot to take pics with the new ones)

 

Rim specs?

 

Rims are stock 17s. Everything is stock besides cosmetic stuff

 

Without looking up the specs on the tire, maybe those new ATWs have a slightly wider tread. Spacers or different rims (with more negative offset) would allow you to fits those tires

 

Yeah that's what I seemed to notice too. That the tires are just freakin big. Even if it's the right size. I'm sad because they already took em off

I COULD still ask them to put it back on and cancel my 265/65/17s.. but I just feel bad. They'll be doing triple the work.

Thanks man

 

@bmlow707 To you, what does "Biggest Tires" mean? Largest diameter or widest?

I ask because a 255/80R17 is a true 33" in the Falken Wildpeak AT4W per Tirerack. 33" is about the largest diameter the truck will handle with the possibility of needing an alignment pushing the lower control arms forward. The two tires you have mentioned are 30.6-31.7" in diameter. Wider than the 33", but yet smaller in diameter.

Please see the 255/85R16 threads. A 255/80R17 is equivalent.

 

You sure the AT4Ws weren’t 285/70 by accident? A 265/70 should not rub, ever. It would have to be largely oversized to reach that point. I have never ever heard of anyone hitting the stock UCA with stock Sport wheels and 265/70.

Looking at the spec, that tire is a decent bit wider so I guess it is possible that that is the problem. Dumb, a tire should stick to its spec. 11.2” section width, 8.9” tread, that is significantly larger than others. Also the rev/mile spec is 625 which is essentially a 33.5” (nominal) tire…that is nuts if that is the case. A typical 265/70R17 is about 656 rev/mile.

 

@Toycoma2021 truuue. I guess naturally I meant height assuming I already knew anything past 265 would need adjusting. But apparently (if I want to play it safe) the 70s I got are just slightly too big if I wanted zero rubbing w the UCA. I honestly was just going off of a chart I found (supposedly by toyota) that that tire size should fit on the sport w stock wheels, etc.

 

@BLtheP yeah man they were forsure 265/70/17. Idk I just went off a chart I found supposedly from Toyota and it said that would with fine. I mean IMO it wasn't THAT bad.. but just not experienced enough to know what "isn't bad" is and didn't want it pay for it later. Plus that's just at idle. I can't imagine the truck rocking back and forth just from even a 3/10 trail. Even more aggressive rubbing would occur right?

 

Well that’s weird. You got the SLs and they are spec’d pretty normally. 10.7” section width and 9” tread width. They have a more normal rev/mile rating of 668, that’s actually a bit on the small side.

Anyways, I have no idea how the rubbing could have happened. This is the first thread I’ve seen that happen on with that size and stock wheels and I’ve specifically looked for a LOT of threads.

 

Yeah idk man. Not sure most of the threads you read were for OR or Pros but all I know is the sport has the least ground clearance from factory right? So maybe that plus the tires just looked super wide at glance honestly. I will say the video I watched on YTube of an army green TRD Sport with the same tire size, claims he had zero issues (he was talking about the wheel well only though, didn't mentioned any components), but he had KO2s.. so idk if it's just individually a manufacturer thing or what

 

The threads I read were for sports, because I at one time was putting Sport wheels on my OR. I knew the wider width of the wheel and deeper offset put the wheel closer to the UCA, so I wanted to make absolutely sure there would be no issues. I never ended up running 265/70, last minute went with 255/75, but still, way too much out there proving 265/70 to be fine.

My guess is that the 265/70 is simply oversized from Falken. They have been known to have incorrect specs listed, so what I find in the specs could all be irrelevant anyways. If you want 265/70 I’d try a different tire.

All trims besides Pro/Trail special edition sit at same height, and height doesn’t really do much for clearing tires anyways. Especially not the UCA. It’s gotta be the way Falken is building this tire.

 

Yup see. Must just be how they made it. Just my luck.

I guess I'm settling bc I already asked them to take it off and they ordered my 65s. Will just have to live w those for a while.

Thanks for the insight

 

BLtheP Do you have the offset and width of the Sport 17" rims at hand? And how they compare to the Off-Road rim specs?

 

17x7.5 +30mm

16x7 +25mm

 

it might be the offset on that oem wheel

 

Plenty of others run 265/70R17 on that same wheel with no issues. It’s gotta be a variance in that tire. All tires are close to the arm on the stock wheel, but not close enough to be a problem. Only a 285 or apparently now a 265 Falken is an issue.

 

i put some WP on a Subaru i had and the same size WP tire was an inch wider than what was on it .........BEEFY

 

Pretty sure I went off of this so I didn't know if it was just cause mine is a Sport but I think it's just Falken the manufacturer. Beefy is exactly how I described what I saw today. Bummed it didn't work out

 

I have 255/80/17 Falken AT3 at stockish height rubbing in the same spot as you are.

Only at full lock.

Yes I do wheel.