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Billy 5100 setting question

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by alx_alx_69, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. alx_alx_69

    alx_alx_69 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I am getting my rear spring TSB done tomorrow, which will put 7 inches in between the tire and the frame on the rear, and right now there is 4 and a half inches in the front between the tire and frame.
    If I install bilies in the front and set them at 2.5 will that pretty much make it level, and does setting billies at 2.5 max them out to where they dont perform well?????
     
  2. DeeKay21

    DeeKay21 Lieutenant Dan.

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    From my knowledge...2.5" will not make it level out. Your front will sit higher then the rear. I know most of the people set it at 1.75".
     
  3. sincitytaco

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    yeah they set it at 1.75 with the TSB, but the front is still lower. If you set the front at 2.5 and get the TSB it should be close to dead nuts level.
     
  4. skistoy

    skistoy Make mine a Double!

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    This is my truck with the TSB and the billy 5100 set at .85.
    I selected .85 because the TSB settled to only raising the rear 1 inch after about a week. So hense, the rear was raised 1 inch, i set the front at .85.
    You could probably go 1.75 and be good also since our trucks have that factory rake. But everyone who has done the 2.5 seem to be front high to me. Plus going 2.5 really doesnt allow the spring full range of motion.
     
  5. 4x4x4trd

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    This has also been a problem with front end alignment issues without changing UCA's? I also set mine at .85" and after a year or so of settling the look is what I wanted being slightly tail high running light and level with a load.
     
  6. sincitytaco

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    In that pic it looks like the front is about 2 inches lower than the rear. So if you lifted the front to the 2.5 level it may still be lower than the rear. Level to me it level. In other word the wheel well is the same distance from the ground at all 4 corners. If the front sits 1 inch lower, it is not level. It may be close, but it is NOT.
     
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    He didn't say it was level, just that the rear was raised about an inch due to the TSB, so he set the Billys to .85. I would assume to match the factory rake. I plan to do the same on mine. I assume, again, that his purpose in posting was to just show what 1" up front and back looks like, as opposed to trying to level it.
     
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    Look in my gallery, I am set at 1.75 with the tsb, it does settle quickly in the rear...as someone stated above going to 2.5 is going to be a little harsh, and you run the risk of vibrations. Not everyone has them, but it does occur. I think 1.75 is real safe for close to level, and a good ride. No alignment issues as well...
     
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    5100 set to max, pending LSD and TRD CAI
    When set to 2.5 my taco looks leveled to the eye.
     
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    yeah go with 1.75" setting...you don't want it perfectly level...if you do that at 2.5 the ride will be harsh and when you are hauling something the rear end will be alot lower than the front...to me it looks good at about 3/4" higher in the rear than the front
     
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    5100s @ 2.5 with 1.5 AAL with 3 leaf non-TSB pack...1/2 inch higher in back, handled 1500lbs without issue & not on bumpstops, no harsh nothin on pavement, offroad might be a little less than plush like a long travel but nothing crazy bad. The worst thing about going 2.5 up front is that you will need UCAs to get caster adjustment correct for front end alignment. It will not wear tires but will feel twitchy & follow grooves in the road a bit.
     
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    I believe he did say 2.5 would be too high.
     
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    Set my 5100's at 1.75 with the TSB springs and have a 1" difference front to back. The 2.5 setting would have made my front end sit too high. Go 1.75, also, my alignment is in spec and truck rides good.
     
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    Mine 1.75 billies and the TSB AAL. Front is just lower than the front.
     
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    wat?

    front is lower than the front.....hmmmm......something to ponder :D
     
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    Correct, I was trying to stay close to factory. Was originally going to set billys at 1.75, but when i re-checked the rear end it went from 1.5 inches of lift to 1 inch of lift. so that why i decide to go with .85. have been very happy with this set up, plenty of spring rate left. did the alignment after intalling billys, no vibrations, no rubbing, even doing 75/80 on highway.
     
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    I believe you dont measure level from the wheel wells. The wheel wells are cut at different heights, the rear has a bigger opening. If you have all four wheel well at the same height, you will be front high
     
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    Hoyal Whiskey bent and hell bound.

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    Hahah yes the front lower than the front. Sorry I ment that the front is lower than the rear at 1.75. I have a lack of sleep and usin my phone to post.
     
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    I have mine set at 1.75 and it's even with the tsb rear. I guess it all depends on how the TSB springs settles afterwards.
     
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