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Bilstein 5100 / Eibach Gallery

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas' started by VirginiaBound, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. May 31, 2013 at 8:35 AM
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    A little rake is good as it makes it easier to get a good alignment. Too much does look a little goofy tho.

    A simple easy fix would be to add some weight to the back to get it down some. Might also help to get the AAL broken in and settled.

    Do you have a pic of it from the side?
     
  2. Jun 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM
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    So I have read all 89 pages and I have only one question....
    Since I just found out that Eibach springs everyone is using are not made for the Tacoma.
    "Why is everyone using Eibach/Bilstein combo instead of just the Bilstein Height adjustable shock with the stock spring?

    The Bilstein shock was designed to be used with the stock spring and you would think the the company would have designed it right so it would work without using a heavier duty spring. I wonder if there is a possibility of future damage to the front end.

    I will getting the Eibach/Bilstein combo with Dakkar Leaf packs just because it seems the only way to lift and level the truck without an AAL. I need new leaf packs since mine are flat so it seems this is the best option for me.

    Tell me what you guys think, especially y'all that have had it on for a while and do some serious wheelin.

    EDIT:
    So Eibach says they don't make one for my truck but when I mention Toytec and the part # they said I have to get all info from Toytec.
    Bilstien said the same thing and have to talk to Race Car Dynamics. That guy was helpful.

    I just wanted to know for warranty purposes and cause when you hear something isn't made for that you wanna check it out. He basicly said go to who sold it to me for a warrant purposes.

    Sorry I y'all knew this already or don't care but I hope it helps!!
     
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  3. Jun 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
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    The usual toyota parts..
    The 5100's have the option of lifting with stock coils but it really is a temp solution because it is doing the same thing as spacers do, precompressing the spring. The 5100 is longer than stock allowing it to work with the Eibach coil which has a different spring rate which lifts the truck without all the precompression. As far as the coils go they are made for tacomas. Eibach exclusively produces this particular spring soley for toytech which is why the springs have Toytech part number and not an Eibach part number. The Eibachs and Bilsteins were made to go together just like the OME springs and nitrochargers. The snap ring is just a function that allows for lift with stock spring. People buy them because of the length, not the snap ring.
     
  4. Jun 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM
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    Now that makes a lot of sense and no one told me that and didn't read it or overlooked it somewhere. Thanks a lot for the info.
     
  5. Jun 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM
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    The usual toyota parts..
    No problem man. I found out some of it the hard way too haha.
     
  6. Jun 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM
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    My set up with one issue. I have a maxed out UCA ball joint I think. I have a loins squeak, squawk on a bushing or metallic. It happens if I rock the front up and down, turning the wheel driving and stopped. Mainly putting a down pressure load and releasing that load.
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  7. Jun 10, 2013 at 3:23 PM
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    I originally replied to your post in the "What have you done to your Taco" thread but I guess this is a better place.
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    I can't tell from your pic but it is possible to install the black lower spring seat on upside down resulting in a lot higher ride height than anticipated.

    One side of the seat (the lower side) has a groove on the inside intended to slide over the c-clip. This feature "contains" the clip preventing it from spreading apart, popping out of the groove and then sliding down the shock body under the weight of the truck. A dangerous situation to say the least.

    If the yours is upside down you should be able to see it. Look closely up under the seat, if you see the majority of the outside edge of the clip it's a boo boo. We are talking about 2" or more lift than anticipated.

    Just a thought.
     
  8. Jun 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM
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    Before Level.jpg
    Before Leveling Kit 20120304_122840.jpg
    After Leveling IMG_2386.jpg
    After Lift, same tires in all three pics, just different wheels in the last one. i gotta get around to doing my build thread as well, but for now. and thanks for all the advice on the rake question.
     
  9. Jun 10, 2013 at 10:05 PM
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    sorry guys, the words got shifted, let me know if yall can see the pics or not too, but the first picture is with no leveling kit, the second is with the 2" spacer leveling kit, and third is with 2" aal, eibachs, and bilsteins. but it doesnt do justice of the rake i have now...
     
  10. Jun 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM
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    Spacers are junk.
     
  11. Jun 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM
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    i know this, i have new suspension now, but im only 18 and i didnt have much money at the time. gimme a break.
     
  12. Jun 17, 2013 at 5:13 AM
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    Ok that's reasonable. Just be careful with them. You're just starting off, I wanna see your build when it's finished.
     
  13. Jun 17, 2013 at 10:17 PM
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    it is done? lol the third picture i posted is my finished truck until i get new tires, i have eibachs/bilstiens front and rear and a 2" aal i have blacked out headlights, corners, and blinkers, and my rear taillights are led smoked, and a custom third smoked brake light with led bulbs.

    I posted three pictures a couple days ago, did they not upload right? they were in order of before leveling kit (stock), after leveling spacer (2" block upfront), third pic was finished as it sits today.
     
  14. Jun 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM
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    Having now read through most of this thread, I have one main question.

    I love my truck, and the most important thing for me is to keep it running as long as possible. I don't plan on keeping it for a few years then selling it, I'm gonna run it into the ground haha. Now I love the look of the 5100s/eibach lift (obviously), but I know the 3+ inches of lift it gives is into the gray area of causing some issues. My question is, other than ride quality what are you compromising by getting a setup like this? I can deal with having to do boot slide mod or replace a boot here and there and maybe a less than perfect alignment, but I'm wondering more about the impact on overall longevity. If I'm at 162,000 miles right now and hoping to get at least double that out of my taco, is a lift like this a bad idea? Am I better off going with the 2 inches or so of lift I would get with 881s/882s? Thanks for your input guys.
     
  15. Jul 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM
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    go big or go home, you will love the ride out of it after new suspension, and it isnt guaranteed that you will ever blow a cv boot. but other than that just minor things like ball joints, bushings, things like that is all that will wear unless you get out and raw dawg your truck like most people do, with oversized tires..
     
  16. Jul 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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    Thanks for the advice. Just put in an order at wheelers yesterday for 5100s, eibachs, and dakars! I'll post pics once I get everything installed.
     
  17. Jul 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM
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    Put my 5100's, Eibach's, AAL, and Toytec 1" shackle. I had it aligned not to long ago and after the lift I had it aligned so Attached is the results of that. Also I got a before hight and after hight with 31" tires on for the front. The 5100's are set to 0 (lowest notch) that is the configuration you would want with this setup.[​IMG]
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    Nice! Have any pictures of how the truck sits after the lift? side view or whatever. Gonna be ordering parts for my lift soon.
     
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  20. Jul 8, 2013 at 6:20 PM
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    I'm just a little stumped. Already got my Toytec AAL and 5100 bushings ordered and still trying to come to a conclusion on the rest.

    I will be getting 5100's all around but I'm not sure which route to go as for the coils.

    I thought I had my mind set on 883's, but then wanting to make sure I get the result I want. Then I keep thinking about Eibach's or 882's. Also lift height longevity comes into play when considering sagging over time.
     
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