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Black boxes

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by rc2125, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. Sep 3, 2008 at 1:20 PM
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    rc2125

    rc2125 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Wondered if 09 tacomas have the infamous black boxes AND if they do, are they seperate from ECU or removeable?
     
  2. Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM
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    jhodge83

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    wat?
    black boxes as in the ones "big brother" uses to watch our speeds and where we're going?
     
  3. Sep 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM
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    rc2125

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    Yeah, the ones that lawyers have data retrieved from out of your vehicle.... if you every get in an accident.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM
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    You would have to look into the owners manual to see if it is on the vehicle, I would say yes it is. From what I understand it is part of the ECU. Why would you want to remove it anyways? Plan on doing something stupid?
     
  5. Sep 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM
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    Just don't like any of the big brother stuff now days.......video cameras on the traffic lights, cell phone tracking, on-star, black boxes in my truck keeping track of my driving (speed/braking/?/etc).
     
  6. Sep 3, 2008 at 6:09 PM
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    chris4x4

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    In principle, and only in Canadian jurisdictions, the information in the EDR is the property of the vehicle owner. The information can only be recovered by law enforcement upon the execution of a search warrant. However, if the vehicle is written off and becomes the property of the insurance company they, as legal owners of the vehicle, become owners of the data contained in the EDR.

    A complicating factor is leased vehicles. A leased vehicle always remains the property of the lessor. Therefore, the lessor could give permission to law enforcement to download the data without the need for a search warrant or permission of the lessee.

    US jurisdictions may have different laws. In the spritit of full disclosure, I am not a lawyer and therefore can't give competent legal advice.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2008 at 8:51 AM
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    To answer your question, YES, the 09s have an EDR....it is in black and white in the owner's manual.
     
  9. Nov 7, 2008 at 10:19 AM
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    RCBS

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    anyone know what year they started this? do all 05+ taco's have it?
     
  10. Nov 7, 2008 at 4:10 PM
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    chris4x4

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    I belive they started fazeing them in sometime in 2000. I heard that by 2005 ALL vehicles would have them. I have one in my 07, and my Wife has one in her 06. My '04 Dodge does not have one, but my '05 Jeep does. :(
     
  11. Nov 7, 2008 at 5:24 PM
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    man go be a asshat on some other site, we get it already
     
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