Body Scanner Saved 35,000 'NAKED' Images

We've been over this. When the majority of the public are morons, the majority is going to support moronic ideas.

Once again, people need to quit being such pussies about safety. Lose a finger or two for fuck's sake. It's not that big a deal. You've got 10.

I would hate to walk around all my life going "at least I'm safe! at least I'm safe! at least I'm safe!". I'm far more scared of losing all constitution, durability, self-respect, and personal responsibility than I am of being unsafe. Get a god damn spine you cowards.

Driving down the interstate is far FAR more dangerous than flying has EVER been, before or after security measures. Why aren't people screaming for more regulations? Right...because none of the talking heads have told them to.

 

to me, it's a shame that most will forgo the rights and liberties that the soldiers of the revolutionary war died for to make possible. the current war in the middle east is often said to be defending our freedoms...is that ALL of our freedom and rights, or only a selected few? the ability to take liberties in my opinion is what freedom really is. i'm a US citizen and take liberty that i can freely use public transportation without harassment or unwaranted searches. guilty until proven innocent? i always thought that it was the other way around?

those who use the "nothing to hide" rationalization aren't thinking about the big picture. are the unwarranted searches at the airport the first step towards these same types of abuses in one's home? quite possibly. i have nothing to hide in my home, but that doesn't mean that i will consent to an unwarranted search of my property and i believe most citizens would balk at the idea of random searches of private residences. it's the old "slippery slope" situation...where will the line be drawn?

our freedoms and liberty are being eroded, and the citizens of this country need to realize that the next one being taken may be one that they do care about.

 

I'm not a criminal....I have nothing to hide. Scan me....pat me down.....I don't give a shit.....just get me on that flight so I don't have to drive!!!

 

Then stop acting like it.

Exactly. I protect my shit. I don't go crying to a government institution blaming it for not doing enough to solve my problems.


I snipped out the rest of your off topic rambling that had absolutely nothing to do with what we're discussing. You can get back to me on these two and we can continue.

 

X2, flying is a privilege, not a right

And I think terrorists have moved passed airliners...

 

This entire response is completely wrong. First of all I don't think you can get more of a non biased statistic for danger then number of people that fly or time flying vs deaths or injury. Just because you can't get hit by a drunk driver and die on a plane doesn't mean that you can't take that into consideration on the risks of driving.... That's like saying, "Well when you drive there's no risk of getting your car hi-jacked by a terrorist and ran into a building, therefore we can't use that in the statistics for safety in flying." It's a fact that driving is incredibly more dangerous then flying, not a biased statistic. The amount of times I have almost been hit by a driver not paying attention is and always will be incredibly higher then injury or death on a plane.

 

Doesn't bother me.

And has the TSA ever actually stopped any terrorists lol. Maybe the new body scan will help em out.

 

They're hardly sexual. So what's the problem here?

Puritanism or terrorism ... take your pick.

 

LOL. You know there'd be no problems here if we all just flew naked.

 

Crazy!!

 

the 4th amendment
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Once again the federal government is breaking the law and we are letting it happen. If they keep nudging us to let them do more and more, all of our rights will be gone. I read in an article that it is actually the DHSs intention to use these scanners in airports to condition the american people to tolerate them. Once we are conditioned the DHS will start putting scanners in schools and malls and other public places. Big brother is watching. Wake the fuck up America, the TSA is doing nothing but wasting our time and invading our privacy, they are not protecting us. We have rights and liberties, it is up to us to ensure our children and grand children have the same rights.

 

My irritation with the people that say "suck it up or don't fly" is that you're assuming two things:

1) That these scanners will prevent terrorists.

This is blatantly false. There are plenty of ways (bomb up the rectum, cargo, ground workers at the airport, crazy terrorist pilot in control of the plane, train, bus, etc) to get around bodyscanners.

So no, I'm not choosing between "puritanism and terrorism." This is called a false dichotomy - those aren't the only two choices nor are they even THE choices. In reality, I'm choosing between a highly invasive scan that needlessly humiliates people and may catch terrorists and deciding that wasting money in this manner is unnecessary, when other alternatives to catch terrorists that don't hamper our freedom are available.

and 2) You don't have to fly.

O rly? BS. There is no practical alternative for long-distance travel. Period.

If there is, name it. I can drive to Europe? ("You can take a BOAT lol!!11!!1ONEONEONE" No, I can't, because I don't have 3 months. "You don't NEED to go to eurup!!!!ONEOENONE111!!11!" I have to choose between naked scans of myself and travelling where I want to?)

This false dichotomy and fearmongering is aggravating.

Here are some facts:
1) This crap takes nude photos of you.
2) The people doing it are low-paid federal workers, with next to no training.
3) This is costing BILLIONS of dollars.
4) By all accounts, it appears minimally effective.
5) There are alternatives (behavioral profiling).

So STOP acting like this is the only option. We do not HAVE to be bodyscanned, how about we re-evaluate how we catch terrorists and find a way that is not invasive to our privacy, cheaper, AND does the job better, like training employees to spot sketchy characters?

 

Weird actually the old head of the DHS from 2005-2009, Michael Chertoff is a consultant to one of the major companies that makes the scanners, Rapiscan. It must just be a coinsidence.

 

Yea... No corruption/collusion there... The government isn't out to make a buck or anything so they could NEVER be corrupt. WRONG!!!

Eliminate earmarks, lobbyists, and all forms of government collusion with business - then positive changes will come from government for the good of the people!

 

This thread make me LOL!