1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Boot slide mod (my experience)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 4DRWork, May 21, 2017.

  1. Oct 14, 2019 at 1:18 PM
    #21
    gasgasman

    gasgasman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2012
    Member:
    #87933
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes. Personal experience,
    Whatever your road speed is, the CV joint is spinning considerably faster. .25 oz is enough to explode a CV axle.
     
  2. Oct 14, 2019 at 1:20 PM
    #22
    Minimag95

    Minimag95 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Member:
    #235456
    Messages:
    1,655
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Niles
    Annapolis, MD
    Vehicle:
    2009 Pyrite Mica V6 SR5 4x4
    OME's w/ 887 Coils, SPC UCA's, 285 ST Maxx. Mobtown sliders & skid
    Is there a better alternative besides the expensive OEM ones? I read somewhere about Moog ones but cant seem to find them
     
  3. Oct 14, 2019 at 1:24 PM
    #23
    gasgasman

    gasgasman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2012
    Member:
    #87933
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Dorman makes them also. You will need to find the proper size.
    Also, the proper tool to compress the clamps.
     
  4. Oct 14, 2019 at 1:46 PM
    #24
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab

    Thats interesting, OP reported back with 15K and no issues.

    I read a post years back with the same mod, the user installed two clamps on each side, one opposite the other to counter possible weight rotation issues.

    I have the tool for the OEM clamps, no clamps though.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2019 at 2:04 PM
    #25
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab
  6. Oct 9, 2020 at 6:05 PM
    #26
    oakcity

    oakcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2020
    Member:
    #317343
    Messages:
    478
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jesse
    Raleigh, North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2009 Grey Tacoma AC 4x4
    Money Pit
    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
    TS4x4 likes this.
  7. Oct 9, 2020 at 7:25 PM
    #27
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab
    I never had an issue after this mod, boot never moved. West Texas speed limit is 80 mph, no vibes at all...
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2020
    Taco_Sam_96 likes this.
  8. Oct 10, 2020 at 11:24 AM
    #28
    GrundleJuice

    GrundleJuice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Member:
    #150931
    Messages:
    2,346
    Gender:
    Male
    Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Bro
    [S]Un-Molested[/S] Lightly Molested
    So you have used a hose clamp and that was the only thing changed and then you had enough vibration to "explode" you "CV axle", as you put it?

    The factory clamps are biased with extra material to one side, too. The mass difference between a 1/4" hose clamp of the axle diameter and the factory clamp can't be more than a couple grams.

    The CV joint is spinning at the same RPM as your wheel/tire. It's rotational velocity is considerably slower. I calculated the angular velocity of an object at a radius of 1" (which is larger than the axle). At 75mph vehicle speed on a 31" tire, the clamp on the small end of the CV boot is rotating at about 5mph (86 rad/sec). At the actual boot clamp radius the G forces are around 10-12G at 75 mph.
     
  9. Oct 10, 2020 at 11:52 AM
    #29
    TRD493

    TRD493 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2015
    Member:
    #173269
    Messages:
    1,713
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Texas (DFW)
    Vehicle:
    17 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 / 01 4x4 V6 Extra Cab TRD SR5
    I get that $10(ish) is not cheap but is that a deal killer? Why not just buy a kit that comes with the tool to crimp them? They only run $30-50 and it's really easy to use.
     
  10. Mar 22, 2021 at 5:20 PM
    #30
    Toyotico

    Toyotico Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Member:
    #235532
    Messages:
    560
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jonny
    Cartersville, Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Silver Tacoma 4x4 dclb
    Just lifted the truck a couple hundred miles ago and noticed some rubbing on both sides. Ordered the clamps and hope I can get them on and installed soon. It’s my daily driver so I’ll have to drive it to work. I have about a 40 mile a day drive. Fingers crossed
     
  11. Mar 30, 2022 at 9:33 AM
    #31
    JFriday1

    JFriday1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2019
    Member:
    #279318
    Messages:
    665
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jesse
    Lakewood, CO
    Vehicle:
    19 Taco TRD-Sport, 16 4Runner
    Mobile Mechanic in Denver Instagram - "Jfriday123"
  12. Mar 30, 2022 at 10:34 AM
    #32
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab
    Never had a single issue on my 2019 with this mod. My current 2021 with 16k miles has the same mod since 1K miles, boots are fine and have not moved. Mine are slid over 3/16”, the width of the band, would not advise going any further. The fins are just far enough apart that they don’t touch, a credit card would just about bridge the gap.
     
  13. Mar 30, 2022 at 12:38 PM
    #33
    GrundleJuice

    GrundleJuice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Member:
    #150931
    Messages:
    2,346
    Gender:
    Male
    Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Bro
    [S]Un-Molested[/S] Lightly Molested
  14. Apr 7, 2022 at 9:01 AM
    #34
    Toyotico

    Toyotico Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2017
    Member:
    #235532
    Messages:
    560
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jonny
    Cartersville, Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Silver Tacoma 4x4 dclb
    Yessir, mine haven’t moved yet. Though I haven’t done much off-roading at all
     
  15. Apr 11, 2024 at 1:48 AM
    #35
    TacoTuesday1

    TacoTuesday1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2019
    Member:
    #296781
    Messages:
    7,734
    Gender:
    Male
    FL
    somehow came across FSAE page saying make sure axles are clocked

    Does this matter?
    Probably didn't do it when I rebooted. Never once seen mention of it in a repair manual ever.
    Far as I'm aware, no issues. Same for anyone else.

    without tracking it on purpose during a reboot, I doubt it luck lands it on like this.

    seen maybe a whole 3 people on the entire internet say to do it
    if it was a thing, I imagine it'd be known.

    cv axle.png
     
    reallifedog likes this.
  16. Apr 19, 2024 at 8:37 PM
    #36
    TacoTuesday1

    TacoTuesday1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2019
    Member:
    #296781
    Messages:
    7,734
    Gender:
    Male
    FL
    does anybody know what size oetiker clamp to use for this
     
  17. Apr 19, 2024 at 9:24 PM
    #37
    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A トヨタ純正男娼

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #288172
    Messages:
    12,460
    Gender:
    Male
    District 6ix
    Vehicle:
    3G Tacoma on 35"s, 5G 4Runner
    It's probably applicable if you had independent rear suspension with rear CV axles.

    The front CV axle has a birfield type outboard joint to accommodate steering angles, while the inboard joint is the tripod type. The "phasing" is therefore moot.
     
  18. Apr 20, 2024 at 3:28 PM
    #38
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab
    Is this what you’re looking for ?
    upload_2024-4-20_17-28-33.jpg

    1 5574K16 Worm-Drive Clamps with Smooth Band for Soft Hose/Tube, 304 Stainless Steel, 1"- 1-5/8" Clamp ID Range, Packs of 10
     
  19. Apr 21, 2024 at 12:17 PM
    #39
    ridefreak

    ridefreak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2018
    Member:
    #270747
    Messages:
    1,136
    Gender:
    Male
    NM
    Vehicle:
    2006 DCSB TRD
    minor tweaks
    My FI motorcycles use oetiker clamps on their Fuel system, it's common for people to replace them with worm clamps because that's what they know, they work but often tend to chew up softer and thinner rubber they they are clamping. Where it matters and the rubber is thin you will rarely see a worm clamp installed by a manufacturer.

    Not trying to insult anyone's method but a real mechanic would frown on using a worm clamp on an axle shaft. Personally there's no way I'd use a worm clamp there unless it was an emergency repair. Nothin says shade tree like the wrong clamps. Worm style are more common on radiator plumbing but not on axle assys. There's a reason these style (oetiker) clamps are widely used in these type applications across almost all manufacturers, it's impossible to overtorque them and they are far gentler to the item they are clamping.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Apr 21, 2024 at 1:00 PM
    #40
    5465

    5465 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Member:
    #212289
    Messages:
    939
    South
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD Ex Cab
    10’s of thousands of miles on several Tacoma’s, zero movement or vibrations with the worms. Like anything else, use quality parts & install properly, always monitor your systems.

    PS, I seen and dealt with many so called expert mechanic's over the years, I’ve learned to repair most of my junk because of their work practices.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top