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bottoming out rear suspension **HELP**FRUSTRATED**

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sully1981, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:21 PM
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    sully1981

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    So i have installed a deaver leaf pack and bilstiens in the rear to compensate my mid-travel kit in the front on my 2005 DC LB and am very dissapointed. I got the recomendation to do this from the shop and i don't want to throw anybody under the bus but lets just say i am not happy with the money i spent. It was not an add a leaf kit it was a full replacement leaf pack and the bilstien 5100.

    Basicaly my problem is that i bottom out over everything from small dips in neighborhoods to little bumps in the road etc. everyday all the time everytime i drive. driving me nuts.

    I need some help from you experienced people. I called a shop today and was basically told that the only thing to do to get the kind of performance i want is to do a spring under kit with full bed cage and all and that it would only be $8000-$10000!!!! This would be great if i had this money lying around but i don't and if i did would probably just 4-link the rear end and go all the way.

    Anyways i need some suggestions tired of bottoming out. Is this leaf pack i bought is to soft to fix with just a good resi shock? Has anyone fabbed up some kind of bracket in the fender well to run a 10" bypass or resi shock? did this work? how is all-pro's rear susp kit, anyone try this? would i need to buy the whole kit or everything but the leafs? Any other ideas would be awesome!!!

    I am trying to probably stay within like $500 - $1500 to fix this problem. My main concern is that i don't spend more cash to end up with the same result. pretty upset with my purchase feel like i threw my money away at this point.

    please help and thanks for all and any help.
     
  2. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM
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    jdkeller

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    I have a 3" All Pro leaf pack and OME rear shocks. Doe just fine. What kind of shocks you have back there? 5100's?
     
  3. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM
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    Yea he's running 5100s now...maybe if he stepped up to 5125s he'd be better off :notsure:
     
  4. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM
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    do you carry a load in the bed?
     
  5. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:32 PM
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    I personally am not a fan of deavers. Do you have stock bump stops on?
     
  6. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM
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  7. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM
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    not really just my dirtbike if anything really but i am bottoming out with nothing in the bed.
     
  8. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM
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    R u sure your bottoming out? Maybe the shocks can't absorb the impact adequately. Meaning there too stiff instead of too soft?
     
  9. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:44 PM
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    yes i still have the stock bumps.

    I was thinking about trying the super stops but even with those i am gonna be on them all the time with how often im bottoming out. I know number one is getting a bigger shock in there just curious if i need to just get a good 8' resi shock or if i can fit a 10" resi or bypass in by welding a new upper bracket to mount it. Then whether or not i need to change the leafs out to a different set. whatever it is i am willing to do it just don't want to waste anymore money.

    cheaper is better but not if i end up in the same spot.
     
  10. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM
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    Maybe get a custom leaf pack, or call up deaver and tell them wats up and see if they will help you.
     
  11. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:50 PM
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    I've known people with an aal and OME or 5100's and don't have a problem.

    What type of stuff are you bottoming out on? Gutters? Speedbumps?
     
  12. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:50 PM
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    Go jump in the bed and get a spotter to see if you are really bottoming out.. I highly doubt you are, it is probably the shock not the leaf springs with the problem.
     
  13. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:51 PM
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    oh yeah it is definately bottoming out. the problem is that the deavers are a softer spring and especially now that they are broken in they are softer than stock. That in unison with the 5100 which is a little better than stock but still not really that great of shock its just not for this application. the guys at total chaos said this happens a lot with this truck but basically reffered me to dmz who does there rear ends, and they told me $8-$10000.

    so im curious what is working from all of your experience out there. i do like to run my truck so it will need to withstand a little bit of a beeting but nothing to crazy. I know its not a long travel and need to not break it but do like to run it a little bit.
     
  14. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:52 PM
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    I agree........
     
  15. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:54 PM
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    I have tried and have never bottomed out with a 3-leaf AAL. Haven't drove with a heavy load but have had at least 900lb of people in the bed parked. And in the desert haven't hit the bump stops (that I have felt) Though I do have an access cab.
     
  16. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM
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    yeah i didn't do the aal which might have been better to keep it a little stiffer. As for checking with a spotter i will have to do that in the morning when i get to work. As far as bottoming out its on everything from like little dips/gutters, speed bumps, little divots in the road or freeway if im doing like 15 mph or more, etc
     
  17. Sep 28, 2010 at 11:58 PM
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    so your saying the shock is possibly bottoming out? so then getting a longer stroke shock should fix this or would just a better shock fix this if this is the problem
     
  18. Sep 29, 2010 at 12:00 AM
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    I would do the spotter check thing first. Then if its the shock then get a good set of shocks. If it is in fact the springs then call up deaver.
     
  19. Sep 29, 2010 at 12:03 AM
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    Too me it sounds like something is too stiff. This could be the leafs or the shocks. I just don't see you bottoming out on divots in the road. Either way I think a different shock would help your situation.

    Either it's bottoming out or it's too stiff for your application and isn't absorbing anything.
     
  20. Sep 29, 2010 at 12:04 AM
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