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brackets to my lower ball joint keep breaking

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by slickvick, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. Oct 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM
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    slickvick

    slickvick [OP] Member

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    hi everyone, this is my first time being on this forum, so i have this direr problem with my toyo tacoma 1997, the bracket that connects to the lower ball joint to the suspension keeps on breaking on both sides of the driver and passenger side of my truck. my truck has a 3'' suspension lift and has 275/70/15 size tires with spacers. i think the reason why the brackets keep on breaking cause of the lift and it adds more tension to the brackets but i got the lift almost 8 years ago, so why break now?. so the question is why are my brackets breaking now, this often, i dont go off roading anymore and they still break. i know my shocks (bilstien) are done but they are not that bad out of shape. can anybody help me with this problem im having. i dont wanna trash my first truck and i wanna keep her as long as i possibly can.
     
  2. Oct 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM
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    Something had to change since you did the install, since they weren't breaking until now. It would have to be something that changed the geometry of you suspension/frame enough to cause a misalignment of the lower control arm and a bind to cause the breakage. This is in liu of install errors, used replacement parts, etc.
    Pictures of the breakage would help in the diagnosis, as well as more details of the driving conditions when it happened.
    Bad shocks/ worn springs could be the cause as well. Are you bottoming out the suspension? This will eventually cause breakage.
    My diagnosis is based on an educated guestimate on the info provided so far. Do not take it as fact yet:)
     
  3. Oct 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM
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    ill load up pics of my truck, and the bracket that keeps on breaking. also yeah the shocks could need a change cause they are bilstien and i got them about 8 years ago and i didnt know that the springs shound need to be replaced. but what is "bottoming out the suspension"? and also the driving conditions are not bad, warm weather and i drive about 35 miles a day on highway.
     
  4. Oct 11, 2011 at 11:14 AM
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    here are some pics of my truck before and after i fixed it and the bracket that keeps on breaking

    IMG_20110808_134826.jpg
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  5. Oct 12, 2011 at 8:05 AM
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    I can't really see the break. Would you take a pic from the ground looking up at an angle toward the break. The bright parts of the pic were making the dark parts hard to see.
    Bottoming of the suspension is when the tire is forced as high as it will go into its stop. After it reached this point, the spring and shock are no longer absorbing anything. It is the frame and suspension that absorb/break.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2011 at 10:11 AM
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    It is a 5 lug thing. I broke a lot of these things (including at high speed) before I just went long travel to eliminate the issue.

    Bottom line is that this bracket is not meant to carry the load of the bigger tires and the lift. Especially if your suspension is really stiff or shocks are shot.

    I sold my spare brackets to a guy on here that was going to try and have some machined instead of the cast ones you get from Toyota.

    Overall you will probably get a better response on the 5 lug forum since this is an issue that only 5 lug trucks have.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM
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    slickvick

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    thanks skytower, i thnk my truck is bottoming out cause when i did drive my truck and when i would come to a stop, you can feel the force push down on front of the truck. ill try to take other picture when i have a chance.

    and thanks siebler, yeah i coming up to a conclusion to just put my truck to its orginal form with smaller tires and taking off the light and thanks for the suggestion for the 5 lug forum.

    thansk guys you with alot of help
     
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