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Brake pad replacement- is this a rip off?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ncyrider, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:41 PM
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    ncyrider

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    Took my 2017 v6 2wd in to a specialty Toyota/Lexus/off road shop to get front brake pads replaced. When I had the wheels off last week to rotate the tires, I looked at the brake pads again and they are definitely low, but with my limited experience with car/truck brakes, I thought they had some life left in them and the rotors looked normal to me. 3 pictures attached.
    Truck has 41,100 miles and as far as I know the brake pads and rotors are the factory original, and the brakes on my truck may have never even been touched at all (bought used with 30k miles)

    I originally thought my truck needed just brake pads and possibly rear drums adjusted. They said the rotors have to be machined when pads are installed, I knew about that too. Even though I've never done that when doing brake pads on my older Ford's, I'm used to not having to pull rotors off.
    The shop said the rotors cannot be machined because it would put them way too far out of spec. So 2 new Toyota rotors are needed. What do you guys think...are they correct, or are my original rotors most likely fine?

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  2. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:47 PM
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    wilcam47

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    Whats up with your brakes? Last pic is the only one i can see brake pad and it looks good
     
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  3. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:49 PM
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    LunarRock_Pro

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    Judging off those pictures your brakes look great. Plenty of pad, rotor looks fine too.
     
  4. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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    megillet

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    On my 2nd gen, still on the original rotors going on 144k plus miles. I had them turned when I did the brakes around 75k and the shop that turned them said I’d only get that one turn out of them.

    It was a pain finding a place to turn them, especially off the truck. Most places didn’t want to do it or said they wouldn’t. I’m guessing your shop is the same and they just don’t want to tell you that.

    And I agree, those pads and rotors look fine.
     
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  5. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:52 PM
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    crbr

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    ^ ^ this

    I smell a rat.
     
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    Hooper89

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    Mine were shot at 35k rotors too. It was 108 for oem rotors online and another 40-45 for pads.

    One pic they look fat to me. Need better pics imho.
     
  7. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:53 PM
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    I don't think brakes are what this thread is about
     
  8. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:54 PM
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    LoveableWerewolf

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    I've never had a shop do brakes, but that sounds fishy. Its always easier just to swap out all the parts, so that might be what they want, plus get some more money.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:54 PM
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    Empty_Lord

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    Plenty of life. And those Rotors likely would be fine to cut once they’re due for replacement. We do it all the time at the dealer. But honestly, pad slapping never gave me any issues on my personal trucks. Shops try to push machining just to make sure you don’t end up with vibrations


    Aka they were trying to sell you front brakes you can probably eek another 20k out of.
     
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  10. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:57 PM
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    Find a shop that will turn the rotors, 79K on original pads & rotors.
     
  11. Jan 20, 2021 at 5:58 PM
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    Hard to tell ,but the rotors looks like it might be able be machine? But today spec’ are stricter...and pictures will not always show the real story..

    I would take it to another shop...for estimates....and see what they say..?

    At the same time....you will want your brakes be in the shape possible.
    I done my wife car replacing both rotors...it is not as difficult as it seems..just need the right tools..
    Aloha
     
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  12. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:02 PM
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    I always recommend new rotors. At minimum have your rotors turned. That goes for my personal cars as well. Just did brakes yesterday on a Silverado.

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  13. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:16 PM
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    That's just fluid film I sprayed a while ago...light corrosion on parts of aftermarket bumper
     
  14. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:24 PM
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    Imo, you're good. But don't trust people on the internet. Did they give you print out with the brake pad thickness? You can measure em yourself and prove if they're lying or not
     
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    My tow rig is an '04 Silverado. It's funny, they do seem to go a very long time on a set of pads/Rotors. My Silverado is heavy, turns 33" BFG's and is loaded and towing probably 90% of the time I drive it and in the past 15 years I've had to replace the brake pads one time (they probably had close to 100K miles on them). Granted most of those are highway miles but there are a lot of mountain and country road miles on them to.

    Back to the topic/vehicle at hand; I agree, those pads look fine to me.
     
  16. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:28 PM
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    Well I have all new brakes...lesson learned haha
    The only trucks I've ever owned prior to this were 2000's Ford ranger/explorers... guess I'm still used to the maintenance those things can require
     
  17. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:30 PM
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    Pads look worn but with plenty of life left
    If they work fine, i'd say they are taking you for a ride
     
  18. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:57 PM
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    It does not appear that you need rotors, and based on the mileage I doubt it. The pads appear good too.
    The bottom caliper piston appears moist and if its brake fluid you would have a sponge like feel when braking. If its solid you should be ok.

    As poster #9 said, most shop recommend turning the rotor whether it needs it or not, mainly to avoid time consuming issues.

    Personally, I don’t turn my rotors unless I have a pulsating pedal when braking. In fact I just replaced my pads at over 50k miles with no issues just as expected. I knew I needed brakes because like you, I rotate my own tires.
    But I also look at the brake fluid level. I bought mine new so I knew that I had never added any, and when it was close to the add line It was time.

    Once I installed the new pads, the fluid went back to the factory full position and I never have opened the master cylinder either to avoid moisture and contaminants, that’s no bueno. Unless of course you need to bleed the brake system.

    Hope that helps

    Cheers!
     
  19. Jan 20, 2021 at 7:27 PM
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    Imo, your pads and rotors look good for a while. Seeing as the shop is telling you that you will need to replace rotors too, may as well get your money's worth out of what you have. It's not giving you any problems, right?
     
  20. Jan 20, 2021 at 7:33 PM
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    ian rogers

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    What do you rotors measure at? That’s all than matters. They have a minimum thickness requirement, if they are under it’s time to replace.
     
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