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Brake Question, Need help quick!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by VermonterLost, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Aug 7, 2011 at 7:26 AM
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    So I changed the brakes on my 2006 Tacoma, 4x4. Intended to change to Hawk pads with powerslot rotors. Got the pads changed but can't for the life or me break the caliper bolts free. Rain is coming quickly, and it's back together sans new rotors. The stock rotors aren't warped, are in rather decent shape. Wondering if I'm going to have any problems if I run them like this for a week (potentially permanently) till I can go home to VT next week and see if someone with air tools can give me a hand to swap the rotors.

    Opinions and answer PLEASE!!

    Thank You.
     
  2. Aug 7, 2011 at 7:31 AM
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    You should be fine
     
  3. Aug 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM
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    The pads will wear in to the rotors. If the rotors are still good, your good to go till the pads wear out.
     
  4. Aug 7, 2011 at 7:59 AM
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    Sweet, thank you much. Figured it would be all right just didn't want to mess up a brand new set of pads. Still want to get the rotors on there, come sugaring season I'll probably have 600-700 pounds of sap in the truck most days, good brakes are a nice thing to have haha.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM
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    Think you missed the point. If you put new pads on old rotor then they are married to that rotor. New rotors or freshly cut rotors ALWAYS get brand new pads. The new pad when mated to the old rotor will develop wear marks opposite the rotors wear marks. When you try to put on a new rotor with the now mis-shapen pads you get bad joo joo.
    If you already put your new pads on the old rotors you will need another set of new pads when you change rotors. Or just keep running those rotors until you need pads again.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2011 at 4:57 AM
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    Yeah that was the point of the question and about 5 days too late. So what is this bad joo joo you speak of? They've only been on there 1 week. Buddy of mine is letting me use his shop next week to swap the rotors. And there's no way I'm droppin another chunk of change on new hawk pads to replace new hawk pads, and I can't return these powerslot rotors anymore. So my options are what? If this is the case really wish someone had raised this concern a week ago.

    Just re-read that, I don't mean to sound like a dick, I appreciate your response Pete838. Now please tell me off this evil ju-ju...
     
  7. Aug 13, 2011 at 5:14 AM
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    Let me fix my question. By swapping the rotors, will the only problem be wearing out the pads faster? I don't see how pads could hurt the rotors. As the rotors are a hell of a lot harder than the pads, and it's the pads that are meant to wear out first. I'm just a little beyond annoyed right now and am trying to make sense of this. 400 miles on the truck since then, please let me know. Thanks.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2011 at 5:39 AM
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    Your new Hawk pads will have the wear marks of the old rotors, if you switch your rotors now you should not have any problems.
     
  9. Aug 13, 2011 at 5:47 AM
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    Sweet. Only problem might be the pads wearing out a little quicker?
     
  10. Aug 13, 2011 at 5:51 AM
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    Maybe, if there are scratches or gouges in your old rotors, but your Hawk pads should not wear out any faster then normal, only way your pads would wear out any faster, if you abuse your brakes, by riding them or a lot of high speed stops aka (hot roding your truck).
     
  11. Aug 13, 2011 at 5:53 AM
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    Yup I'd say I'm good then, lol. 4 angry squirrel's don't exactly encourage me to drive it like a mustang.
     
  12. Aug 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM
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    Back several years ago in trade school we were taught to always replace pads/shoes and replace or cut rotors/drums at the same time because your new pads are nice and flat and your new rotors are nice and flat and your brakes will perform as designed.

    Compare that to pressing a grooved pad into a flat rotor. While it isn't likely that the softer pad will cut grooves into the harder rotor, you aren't making full pad to rotor contact. Until your new combination of pads and rotors are properly "bedded" you will have decreased stopping power.

    The likely result of breaking in (or bedding) the pad twice is a reduced overall pad life and slightly decreased braking performance during both break ins.
     
  13. Aug 14, 2011 at 11:00 AM
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    That's kind of what I thought would be the consequences. For what it's worth, I think I'll risk it. Thankfully the stock rotors on there aren't bad so it shouldn't be too terrible.
     
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