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Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by austinsdad99, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Aug 4, 2017 at 4:30 PM
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    austinsdad99

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    Guys this is my 1st toyota and I'm thinking this truck has never had a new set. Today I was just easing along with my foot on the brake and heard some terrible screeching noise from the driver rear tire... anyways how difficult are changing the rear brake shoes on these trucks? Ive changed lots of pads on cars but never really messed with shoes..

    I appreciate it..
     
  2. Aug 4, 2017 at 4:39 PM
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    Easy enough, no surprises. The Japs are great mechanical engineers, no?
    Search this forum and you'll find a thread that will take you step by step.
     
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    take pics of the respective brake and spring location prior to removal if you dont have haynes or chiltons manual. The springs need to go back in the same order/position that they came from.
    They really arent aweful just need a good set of large needle nose pliers :)
     
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    Sweet! I may take a look at them when i get time and get some shoes if need be.
     
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    typically the most difficult part is taking the drum off and getting the springs back in the correct position :)
     
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    Search up "ChrisFix Change Brake Drums" and a great set of generic how to's will come up.
     
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    Good points wilcam,
    As far as removing the drum.
    There are two metric bolt 'pull' holes on each drum to get it off (forgot the size)
    You just alternately screw each bolt in until the drum breaks free.
     
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    If they are making noise as described, 'getting time' is a pretty important thing. Assuming of course you are actually using the vehicle.

    As @wilcam47 says, take pics prior to disassembly. But post spray down with some brake cleaner, because some of the springs are color coded, and you won't see that well when dirty (in the pics)

    If you forget the pics, do it the old way. Only tear apart one side at a time. Then you can refer to the other side for reassembly, but remembering that it's a 'mirror' of the side you have apart.

    You don't mention the mileage. If it's over 100k, you may well need drums turned or replaced as well. Not to mention it would be worth a full on hardware kit to go with the shoes.

    And there is no magical engineering here @Mulepadre. It's just hydraulic drum brakes that have been around since the 20's or so.
     
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    Yea by getting time I mean a off day basically was all, It only made the noise this morning.. i noticed with window down going say over 10mph i got no noise. So far ive done alot of basic tuning up on it since i got it, im planning on new front pads and rotors soon as well... mileage is 210k. never had the drums off so in a few days i can take one off and inspect things and go from there.
     
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    I will check that out, iam a chris fix fan.
     
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    True... yet permit me a reflection LOL.
    When a man kisses his girl, is he merely kissing her lips or is he kissing her?
    Which is to say that the brakes are only a part of the whole of that marvel of Jap engineering we know and love as Tacoma.
     
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  12. Aug 5, 2017 at 8:32 AM
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    I just have to chime in here...

    Been doing brakes since 1960. Pretty easy. One side is a mirror image of the other, and the return springs were not at all difficult to remove and reattach.

    But when I did my brakes on my 1998 Tacoma I had a helluva time getting the return springs off, and an even worse time getting them back on. Seems my strength has decreased somewhat, but more likely they were hard to get off and back on again because somewhere down the line the smaller two return springs (one from each shoe going up to the anchor above the wheel cylinder) were combined into one big long spring that stretches across from one shoe to the other.

    Anyways, after the last job I saw a tutorial showing (on a 1998 model) how to remove and reinstall the shoes with the return spring attached. I'll have to try that the next time I do this job.
     
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    yep, there is a bit of a learning curve with those springs. There are a couple things that I can think of that you should know before you start. The first is if the drum isnt loose already you can thread a bolt into the drum at the flange and it "should" break the rust and pop it loose. If the drum is gooved you might have to retract the shoes via the adjuster to get the drum off. When looking at the brake shoe's the shoe with the "big" lining goes it the back, not thickness, length. Some manufactueres use the exact same shoe for the leading and trailing shoe but vary the lenght. A little grease on the hub/shoe contact will make next time off easy.
     
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  14. Aug 6, 2017 at 2:50 PM
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    great advice, Ive had to hit the drum with a rubber mallet to free it. then it pops right off.
     
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    Finally got around to pulling the rear drums.. shoes still had plenty of pad left.. just alot of brake dust on everything.. used about a can of brake clean and got everything back clean again. Good news is wheel cylinders and everything still looked really good, no leaks or anything anywhere i can find.. Shoes had "ntk" or nbk on them, im gonna assume that's factory installed?
     
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