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brake upgrade options?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by TRDard, Apr 21, 2012.

  1. Apr 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM
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    TRDard

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    So after installing the 33 Trail Grapplers I feel that the stock TRD Offroad brakes that came on my 07 tacoma are not strong enough... almost ran into the back of another SUV today after "she" decided that yellow means stop. What are my options?

    I have 18" rims on so I was thinking perhaps Tundra brakes or is this an overkill?
     
  2. Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 PM
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    new pads maybe. check them first my ’07 trd OR are great and i can stop pretty fast!
     
  3. Apr 21, 2012 at 11:31 PM
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    Do this, heavier compound pad, dot 4 brake fluid, and SS brake lines. That is the best bang for your buck.
     
  4. Apr 22, 2012 at 1:04 AM
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    ok, thanks! where does one get SS lines? Napa? Heavier compound pads, how does one know? you mean metallic vs organic?
     
  5. Apr 22, 2012 at 1:22 AM
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    Get some brembo blanks and hawk hd or lts pads.

    Dont waste your money on the slotted or drilled rotors.
    The holes in the rotors will eventually cause stress cracks. And the slotted was made to reduce heat and dissipate gas. But with today's technology those gas barely exists. A rotor with angled vent fins does a better job dissipating heat.
     
  6. Apr 22, 2012 at 1:58 AM
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    Generally for you I would get stoptech brake lines and a "street" like pad. stoptechs pad is good as well as hawk heavy duty pads, from my experience both were very consistent with each other. When you get into the pads that I run, heavy race compound, there noisy and are very dusty.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2012 at 2:00 AM
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    Switch to a different Brake compound like Ceramic if you haven't already.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2012 at 6:58 PM
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    alright Hawk LTS pads, SS line on the way... I'll do rotors when these are gone.

    For people that use DOT4 fluid, which brand did you go with, worth getting from Amsoil or just get Valvoline synthetic for half the cost?
     
  9. Apr 23, 2012 at 7:22 PM
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    :) The valvoline synthetic fluid will work fine, as will any grade of dot 3 or dot 4. The synthetic type give you a higher boiling point for the fluid, which should not be problem unless you do a lot of mountain driving or race your Taco. Any good name brake fluid will work, the best thing to do is to change your fluid every 2 years to prevent water from assimilating into the brake fluid. Brake fluid is hydroscopic, which means it absorbs moisture from the air. This is why it is bad to use brake fluid from an opened can, if it is old.

    You will improve your brakes, but there will be some trade offs. Your new pads will make more brake dust than your stock ones. Your new pads may cause the rotors to wear faster and may make noise when applied. The SS lines need to have a clear outer cover to protect the dirt from getting between the SS outer cover and the inner rubber hose. It will wear a hole over time, the SS outer only keeps the line from moving excessively when you brake, it does not protect the line from the elements. A clear nylon cover over the SS braided line will protect the line some.

    I am sure you are trying to get the best and it sounds like you did, but it will not be the final solution for better brakes. You will need to research for a disc brake system for the rear also. Your drums will be letting your whole system down and your brake will only be as good as your weakest link to your system. I wish I knew of some sources for parts, but this is a large forum with many ideas and someone will have an answer.
     
  10. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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    thanks for the tips, good point about the rears... it's already the weakest point, what do people do to improve it? Any disk brake conversions out there?
     
  11. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM
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    Usually I would say machine the rotors but since you put the money put for hawk pads, might as well get some new rotors with them.
     
  12. Apr 26, 2012 at 12:03 PM
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    Yep--rear brakes are only going to provide about 10% of the braking power on a truck. I wouldn't waste the money unless it's a tracked vehicle (as in, race track).
     
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    Great info right up to when you started about a rear disc conversion... The rears are not weak as mentioned above and 90% of your stopping force is in the front anyways.
     
  14. Apr 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM
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    One other thing to mention, but as I understand it *all* brake fluids are actually synthetic (I think this info comes from the Bobistheoilguy forum). I recently bought a bottle of brake fluid to flush out the brakes on my Taco, and looked at the performance data on the bottle. The one that didn't have "SYNTHETIC!!11!!" all over the bottle actually stated better temperature ranges than the "synthetic" version.

    That being said, there ARE higher grades of brake fluid, but they are usually geared towards race cars and such. Also, some of those higher grades have trade-offs, as they are more prone to sucking up water (all brake fluid is hygroscopic, but some more than others). I think there's a version of Castrol that is highly recommended for high-performance street applications.
     
  15. Apr 26, 2012 at 9:45 PM
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    wipper what are my options if any other than bbk whole lotta $$$
     
  16. Apr 28, 2012 at 9:15 AM
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    Stoptech makes a big brakes kit for the Tacoma, I think I saw one for about $2200.
     
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