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Brake Upgrade: StopTech Rotors + TRD Performance Pads

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Jul 5, 2019 at 6:32 PM
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    Only reason is that’s the closes to Te37 looks wise but mainly I was going for 22 lbs weight. I don’t know if I had hear of any other 17” in that weight segment. Most others pushing 30lbs or more /: I knew I’d be lit on a stake for that hahaha I’ll take it
     
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    There is probably nothing wrong with the rims function wise. (besides the inferior quality). It's just there are die hard wheel guys, and supporting a replica company is sacrilegious. But you do you!
     
  3. Jul 5, 2019 at 9:36 PM
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    I doubt this brand is any better or worse than _______ fill in the blank. Most are manufactured using similar methods and materials in Taiwan or China. So I went with the next logical choice.. least amount of weight which is 22 lbs, my 16” methods where 23.5 lbs for example ...
     
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    lose some steel and go Aluminum.
     
  5. Jul 5, 2019 at 10:28 PM
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    Or I should have just gone with power wagon to begin with hahaha. I was mainly concerned with rotational mass obviously
     
  6. Jul 6, 2019 at 5:22 PM
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    Curious then why 17"s? I can understand mud for the 16's but what is the other problem for 16"s off road? Mine will be here monday hate to have to buy another set of wheels for this truck already have 10 SCS 16" wheels for it one set I was going to swap to it's little brother. This truck will spend most of it's time in the desert so no worries about mud.... Any way please do tell. Thanks in adavance
     
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    The space between the caliber and wheel is letteraly 2-3mm space left. So with heat I’m guessing the metal can expend a bit on top of that so even at desert small rocks will get jammed likely. Also under heavy braking there is a small chance the caliper might move. Wheel weights is a problem, wrong placement and you will jamb it. Lastly I felt that a bit more room would let it cool down and breath more. I guess it was way too close for comfort sadly /: I was very bummed to let go of my volks
     
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    Just some food for thought. I seriously doubt the calipers will expand enough or move enough since the spindles are forged so not likely to hit the wheels also lot's of high end sport cars have been running these set ups for ages with zero issues with aluminum calipers with a ton more heat... Also the smaller the gap the smaller the rock ever had a 1/2" rock wedge itself inside the disk and wheel? I would much rather have a 2mm piece of granite stuck in the disk than a 1/2" chunk which would be capable of grinding out the inside of the wheel until it becomes two pieces. Last but not least Dakar Rally trucks run these types of set-ups with zero problems. Any way 17's also have a ton of tire options as well so I understand that as well so I can see where you are coming from. But will I probably stay with my 16"s either way and I am sure we will both be happy! :cheers: & thanks again for letting us know about these brakes !!!
     
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    Is there a 17” wheel BBK with the StopTech Aerorotor? The ones I’ve seen use the standard rotor, which is why they are so much cheaper.
     
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    I dont know Im just going off sos Performance website
     
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    Gotcha, yeah those are standard rotors. The Aerorotors are far better, I believe StopTech claims 80% more airflow through the rotor for superior cooling as well as being lighter for less rotational mass with the 2 piece design.
     
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    I guess that brings the question of how close is too close? I’m not an expert.. but I think 3mm clearance is more than safe.

    Yup, WAY lighter! Thanks for the recommendation:)
     
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    A very good point about the rock size and space didn’t really think of it that way. I do like the fact I have a lot more choice on 285/75/17 option tire wise for sure! If you stick with 16 just watch the wheel weights placement that’s the biggest challenge especially with tire shops not exactly know for taking their time. Also my 16 was 8 wide so the caliper does stick out on the inside of the wheel so again if and when you are in the situation where the wheels is stuck in mud snow sand etc it will make it easier for damage since it’s not protected by the wheel very well. I guess I wanted to have piece of mind so I made the change. Ironically I went with stoptech primarily because they were supposed to clear 16” wheel. Wilwood was a cheaper option with a bigger diameter rotor but required 17”. At this point I just hope that stoptech is just a better product hahaha
     
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    Here is illustration of just how tight a 16 rim will be with thinnest wheel weights you can find. You might not even fit a quarter between that gap /:

    F3CA5D75-E1BF-4CB1-91FA-7C5C9BACF286.jpg
     
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    Does that even freely clear?!
     
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    That’s what I mean it’s litteraly hairline so I had no choice but to play it safe.
     
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    Hurry up and buy the BBK so I can steal your rotors... my brakes suckkkkk. Probably should flush the brake fluid as well. No idea when it was done last
     
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    Soooo shop spent 5 hrs trying to bleed these damn brakes going trough every possible scenario and they still don’t work you have to pump the brake to get any brakes at all. They are calling a master tech from Toyota to see if they’ve missed anything on the Toyota end also spoke with sos performance all day long and gone step by step and still no solid results. it’s starting to look very grim for sos and stop tech here. I’m beginning To think that perhaps master cylinder is simply not capable of pushing enough brake fluid to function with this kit on the contrary to what SOS performance states in their advertising /:
     
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    Alot of guys are upgrading their M/C to sequoia units. But that is because they are doing rear disc conversions and need the extra pumping volume. Just fronts brakes.. I haven’t heard of this?
     
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    That would be exceptionally disappointing being the advertising claims otherwise. What year is your truck?
     
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