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Brake Upgrade: StopTech Rotors + TRD Performance Pads

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Apr 19, 2018 at 2:11 PM
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    Hey guys I have a question I tried using the search box and this forum came up but I need to buy new rotors for my truck I was wandering what you would recommend I have a 2011 2WD TRD Sport I use it as my daily driver. Any ideas or recommendations?
     
  2. Apr 19, 2018 at 2:17 PM
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    Look at the first post. Try those ones.
     
  3. Apr 20, 2018 at 8:36 PM
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    If you have 6 lugs on your wheels, then the ones from the original post will fit.

    If you have a 5 lug, then there is a version for that too here.
     
  4. Apr 20, 2018 at 9:21 PM
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    I have all my stuff ready to install. I plan on doing it in a couple weeks. Keep everyone posted...
     
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  5. Apr 28, 2018 at 4:08 PM
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    Upgraded my truck with some stoptech rotors, drilled and slotted, and pads.

    Pics of them at the Dodger Stadium Spartan Stadium run today!

    Hope they last a while :fingerscrossed:

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  6. Jun 9, 2018 at 9:28 AM
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    Thumbs up, excellent write up, learned something new about vane count and spacing today :)

    I added the front and rear LCE stainless steel lines and flushed the brake fluid last weekend.
    There was a HUGE difference just with those two projects alone.

    Personally I love the green stuff EBC 7000 series pads for me,
    A little dusty but stops the truck extra fast and can lock up the tires if needed easily. They
    are a great pads for daily driving.
     
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  7. Jun 9, 2018 at 2:23 PM
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    Love the rotors but the TRD ceramic pads dust like hell. Probably going EBC for pads soon.
     
  8. Jun 9, 2018 at 5:14 PM
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    I’d suggest going semi-metallic and not the green stuff organic if going with EBC and not wanting ceramic pads.
     
  9. Jun 10, 2018 at 3:33 PM
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    Thanks for the heads up. Any particular pad suggestions?
     
  10. Jun 10, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    Good stuff. Took some notes for when I need a break job.
     
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  11. Jun 12, 2018 at 12:34 PM
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    If you feel the TRD performance ceramics are too dusty, then not really other than stock ceramic pads. I mentioned semi-metallics earlier, which will be higher performing but they will also have more dust that is much thicker/heavier than performance ceramics so they wouldn't be a good option if looking for minimal dust. While EBC greenstuff is popular in general, the greenstuff is organic which has the lowest operating temperature window, most prone to brake fade and fastest wearing, which IMO doesn't make it a good candidate for trucks, especially if running oversized tires. EBC does now offer extra duty truck pads, which I don't recall seeing last time I checked, but these are again organic pads. While organic pads are lower dust, they typically do well in cold stops but as temperature rises pad performance drops off significantly.
     
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    Oh I didnt know there was a stock ceramic. I thought the TRD pads were the stock pads for the TRD offroad.
     
  13. Jun 16, 2018 at 8:49 PM
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    My question is who makes the TRD pads...I wouldn't be surprised if they have a contract to rebrand another manufacturer's high performance pads and sell them in their TRD box.
     
  14. Jun 16, 2018 at 9:21 PM
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    The 7000 series green stuff are the heavy duty and are available most anywhere.
    I got mine at oreillys auto parts
     
  15. Jun 16, 2018 at 9:50 PM
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    Stock is ceramic. TRD makes a performance ceramic upgrade, which does not come stock on the trucks.

    Greenstuff is organic. Organics have the lowest heat operating temperature, fastest wearing pad material and first to experiance brake fade. Not something I’d recommend in a truck.

    Edit: Don’t get me wrong, I have enjoyed greenstuff in my light weight autocross cars, but not a pad material I’d use in this application.
     
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    From what I've found in some brief searching was Stoptech.

    I have the cryo rotors and stoptech street pads ready to go on.
     
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    so I took the OP's advice and installed the StopTech slotted and cryo treated Rotors + TRD Performance Pads and while they worked fantastic at first they seemed to "warp" after only a few months. I ended up taking my truck back to the mechanic and he turned the rotors and reinstalled the same pads. Well, low and behold it's starting to happen again. The steering wheel shakes when braking.....not too bad right now but I'm sure it'll get worse as time goes on like it did before.

    Now I'm not a mechanic and always pay a real mechanic to work on my truck because I'd rather leave it to the pros. What I do know from reading all the great posts on here is that the rotor isn't actually warped but rather the pads have left deposits on the rotors because I haven't "seated" them properly. I couldn't do the stupid 60 to 0 hard stopping thing 2000 times in a row (of course I'm joking here) but I thought I babied the brakes for the first 200 miles. so I need some advice......first, can I turn the rotors a 2nd time or do I need to replace them? if I have to replace the rotors do I stick with the same ones or change them to something else?

    I'm thinking It's the pads that are giving me trouble and I want to change to something else. So in a perfect world I would turn the rotors one more time and install a different performance type pad but NOT the TRD performance pad.

    I should also mention that I don't blame the brakes as I drive like a bat outta hell because it's my truck and I drive it like I stole it!!

    any suggestions??…… crashnburn80 anyone?? Bueller??
     
  19. Jun 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM
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    That is a bummer. The break in is certainly a PITA and easy to mess up. I used my parking brake a lot to complete any hot stops in the final 1-2mph during the first few hundred miles rather than let the hot pads sit on the rotor. There are specs for rotor thickness, but I'd bet turning them a second time you will still be in spec coming from a new rotor. It isn't like the rotor was worn before it was turned, so material removal should be minimal. As you pointed out, this is the pad causing the problem, not the rotor. Most true performance pads come with similar break in procedures, which is why these types of pads do not come stock on vehicles. It isn't uncommon for aftermarket pads to actually specify a much longer break in bedding period as well, the TRDs are relatively short at 200 miles. Note that StopTech street pads have similar bed-in instructions.
    http://www.stoptech.com/technical-s...ions-and-procedures/stock-brake-system-bed-in

    For a pad that is easier to bed in, I don't have any specific recommendations. You may have better luck with a different pad. You could play it safe and go back to a stock pad which will minimize the risk for pad transfer, or look for a semi-metallic stock pad replacement to get a little more performance than stock with the cost of dust/noise.
     
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    thanks for the feedback. I'm sure my mechanic can turn the rotors once more because all that's on them is the caked on brake dust. I'll probably just go back with oem pads......
     
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