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Brand new 2022 SR/SX vibration at around 25 mph

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jackpiner57, Sep 1, 2022.

  1. Sep 22, 2022 at 1:22 PM
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    That’s super interesting it has a woble
     
  2. Oct 6, 2022 at 8:10 AM
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    Just an update with my truck...

    I called Toyota who opened a case. I then received a call from the service director at my local dealership. This time I went with a ride with the service director. He had me drive it first and told me he would drive it after me. He acknowledged the vibration right away and told me it was not normal. When I pulled over to have him drive he said it was not necessary and the issue was pretty obvious. I dropped him off at the dealership and he told me he would be contacting Toyota. Toyota told him my truck has the "parts" from the driveline TSB but Toyota was going to send out a field engineer to drive and look at the truck. Im waiting for him to get back to me to drop off the truck next week.

    My advice is to call corporate.. I think there are unfortunately many people who are settling for the dealerships excuse of "all the 22's do it" which is absurd. The more people who reach out to corporate will only help people down the road.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2022 at 5:47 PM
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    That's all well and good but Toyota doesn't have a proper fix that works on all trucks. They try "this and that" and it sometimes works on one truck but not another.

    Side note, try 200 then 300 lbs in your bed and drive around. I tested mine again with just my dirt bike (230 lbs) in the bed and found a perfectly smooth newly paved road and went back and forth in the 10-30 MPH range and...... the vibes were totally gone. I'm pretty confident my issue is the driveshaft angle as the weight changed the angles just enough to rid of the issue. I'll be taking angle measurements of the pinion angle with and without the weight then adding a shim to install and test. Fingers crossed! Either this or I install a camper shell! Haha
     
  4. Oct 9, 2022 at 7:06 AM
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    Yes, my vibes mostly go away with some weight in the bed. From what i've been reading here it seems the driveline angles are the most common problem.
     
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  5. Oct 29, 2022 at 1:16 PM
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    It's needs axle shims mine does it too at 25mph. Also around 41 and 69-71 mph. 4in lift with 33s. It's super annoying when. You go past 25 either way and especially when you stay right at 25mph. I googled it and am waiting for the shims to fix it. Les schwab installed the lift and is going to take care of it. They already replaced the needle bearing, but it wasn't that.
     
  6. Oct 29, 2022 at 8:18 PM
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    My ‘21 TRDOR does this. My buddy is a Chevy mechanic and is convinced it’s a whacky torque converter.
     
  7. Nov 22, 2022 at 4:19 PM
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    ECGS bushing? That didn't fix some of it? I now have the 30-10 MPH vibe AND a different harmonic vibration that basically pulses every few seconds right at 50 MPH. Figure I've got two issues; driveline angles and maybe needle bearing going bad?
     
  8. Nov 25, 2022 at 9:54 AM
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    Yeah, my issue is the same. 100 lbs in the bed helps... 200+ almost gets rid of it completely.. Toyota essentially told me they aren't going to fix anything... but they told me the drive angle TSB will be applying to the 22 models eventually.. who knows how long though... in the meantime im throwing on some 265/75/16 tires to see if it will help.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2022 at 1:24 PM
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    Also if you read through that TSB thread from people who've had it done, it doesn't even work most of the time. Occasionally it does. I got a digital angle gauge and measured my pinion angle with and without 250 lbs in the bed. It changes the angle by 0.5 degrees so that's about the amount of shim I need. Most shims start at 1 degree though. Since my 30-10 vibe goes away with that weight in the back, I'm hoping it was go away with that 0.5 degree of shim. I might end up lifting the front an inch with the ECGS bushing and putting a half inch block in back with a 1 degree shim. We'll see.
     
  10. Mar 22, 2023 at 11:15 AM
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    In December 22 I purchased a new '22 TRD Off Road DblCab 4x4. Prior to purchase, I test drove (2) 2022 TRD Sport models & 2 TRD Off Roads models. The Sport was a very stiff ride, which is the opposite of what I wanted. The Off Road was PERFECT!

    Only change was different wheels at time of purchase. Never experienced ANY unusual vibrations for 1st 9 months and 10k miles.

    Then the vibrations started. First at lower speeds, now at any time between 25-65mph. Always after reaching cruising speed, tachometer drops to 1k and then as torque is added with next minor incline until increased torque results in shift to higher RPM. Does not vibrate at 1500+ RPM. On road trips, continual vibration is fatiguing. Now cargo also rattles and and also noting other dash and vehicle rattles. I added up 200-600-800 lbs in bed with no improvement.

    Took truck to dealer. Shop Foreman acknowledged vibration problem. Dealer called in Regional FTS engineer to test and advise.

    FTS also acknowledged vibration was a problem but assured the problem could be corrected.

    Drive shaft replaced, leaf spring parts, added shims, confirmed pinion angles. Replaced wheels with stock. No improvement. As noted in another post, they removed rear drive shaft and drove in 4H and vibration went away.

    After additional "fixes" directed by the FTS and numerous test drives with me, FTS returned for additional review. FTS told dealer to stand-down. I was told vibration was "vehicle characteristic" because FTS found another 22 TRD Off Road DblCab 4x4 at dealership with same vibration. To me, that just means they have more than one vehicle with a problem. I felt totally blown-off. I was advised by dealer to file warranty claim with Toyota.

    I love EVERYTHING else about this truck. I just want the vibration corrected.

    I have driven trucks since 1977. Never had a Toyota before. Given all of the pre-purchase research I performed, and how passionate Tacoma owners are, I thought I was getting a dependable truck with great reputation. My mistake was not knowing to add "vibration" to my search criteria :(

    I will also be pursuing a warranty claim.
     
  11. Mar 22, 2023 at 4:04 PM
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    You explained everything I’ve experienced better than I could have. I have a case# right now waiting for a callback. I just want it fixed before it rattles even more stuff loose. If they don’t fix I’m trying a tom woods shaft, and if that don’t fix it I’m shipping it back and taking a trade in loss.
     
  12. Mar 22, 2023 at 4:20 PM
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    my fuck, this has been a consistent problem since this 2005. same frames, suspension, differentials, driveshafts and bullshit. if you put weight in the bed and it goes away that tells you it is pinion angle or carrier bearing angle problems. there was at one time a tsb to replace the rear 3rd, not sure if it still exists. hate to say it but there is a reason the tacomas are basically the cheapest mid sized truck, toyota hasn't done anything to improve the since 2005, in fact i think most of us agree the powertrain is worse, but the interior is better, great a distraction from the shit that they don't care about. they'll change a few things then tell you again it is normal. ask me how i know.... had 3rd, driveshaft, and clutch replaced, did nothing, well fixed the slipping clutch issue at least, then did a tsb where they added extra sound deadening to the interior to absorb the drone caused by the vibration. toyota sent me a letter saying my truck had no issues, i called over and over and go nowhere. this is old news with these trucks.
     
  13. Mar 22, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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    It’s an access cab thing :anonymous:
     
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  14. Mar 22, 2023 at 5:27 PM
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    Dealing with the same issue in my 2021 TRDOR long bed quad cab. Toyota has replaced driveshaft, balanced driveshaft, new rear rotors, and am on my third set of OEM wheels. Nothing changes. I am seriously looking at other trucks because the value of mine is high and I am thinking this can be someone else's problem. The dealer and FTS also acknowledged everything but told me it's "normal" even though the six other 3rd gens I've been in don't do it. My guess is a torque converter issue and I will be doing a transmission drain and fill to see if that changes anything (I've heard that some 3rd gens out of the Baja plant have came from the factory with low transmission oil). Keep us posted.

     
  15. Mar 24, 2023 at 8:47 AM
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    2023 Sport and I had the TRD lift kit installed prior to taking delivery. I have had EXACT same experience, 25 mph acceleration, deceleration it doesn’t matter. I read as much as I can here so I’m well versed on the bushing issue. I put into 4wd no effect , still there. It’s a very subtle vibration in steering wheel. I’ve had since I drove off lot. They said give it 1k miles to see if it settles itself. I was at dealer yesterday, they acknowledged yes it’s there. Can’t give reason but said they opened a case with Toyota and that according to their contact at Toyota it’s a “known” issue. Mine is tolerable and it’s now documented so I’m just going to live with it and remind them every single 5 k service unless it gets worse. It’s a tad annoying but I still love the truck
     
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    Hi all. Really glad Google led me here. Brand new 2022 Tacoma SR, completely stock. Vibration started at around 4k miles. Brought it in for 5k service and was told technicians could not hear/feel it, and told me to drive it like normal. Vibration never got worse, but it certainty didn't get any better. It's harder to detect when accelerating bc of the noise and vibration from the engine, but 25-35 miles it is very much noticeable, no matter what the engine is doing. Going in Thursday for 10k service and a tech has agreed to ride along with me. I'll keep you posted as to what they find.
     
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    yep...mine does it
     
  18. Mar 27, 2023 at 4:25 PM
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    My reg 2009 reg cab did it, my 2018 access didn't do it. Lets see what the next gen brings.
     
  19. Aug 30, 2023 at 7:44 AM
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    Took a long time and almost a year of being persistent... I picked up the truck the other day and the vibes are gone!

    the first corporate tech was polite but clearly was a good old loyal corporate guy. He told me and the service director there was no vibration and my driveline was within spec. We were in the ruck with him telling him we felt it. He clearly wanted nothing to do with it and I got the impression he was just there to dismiss me. I refused to accept the corporate techs conclusion. After some back and forth with corporate and the dealer they sent out a different corporate tech. The dealer told me they keep getting these complaints and corporate wanted to send out someone else to look at it.

    What a difference. The new corporate tech was definitely a passionate and knowledgeable guy. He seemed to know exactly what was going on and was almost completing my sentences. We went for a ride and talked about cars and he told me he felt it and would be shooting a laser down my driveshaft to see how it looks.

    The dealer called me and told me the corporate tech said the driveline angles were off. They ordered "alternate leaf springs" for the truck. When I asked what that meant she told me they were different from the stock leaf springs and TSB leaf springs.

    I went the next day to pick up the truck and felt an immediate difference. The vibes were about 95 percent improved and I am extremely happy with the result. Interestingly I noticed on the TSB the off road models were not included. I checked my leaf springs and the dealer left the sticker on there. I ran the part number and they put in the Off Road leaf springs!

    It appears the solution for the vibrations in SR and SR5 models may be using the Off Road leaf springs. Im sure each case can be different but this worked for me. I figured I would share my experience and maybe some of you can use it to your advantage.

    https://parts.longotoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-leaf-spring-4821004832?c=az0x
     
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  20. Sep 25, 2023 at 10:22 PM
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    Glad to hear you got it fixed. Interesting that it was something as simple as the leaf springs. I have a 2020 SR SX that does this exact thing. Thought it was the front rotors but not it. Gonna be checking the alignment and rear drum brakes soon. If it’s not that might be worth just replacing the leaf springs with TRD OR. Too bad I can’t do the TBS because my truck is out of warranty.
     

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