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Brice's Turbo V6 Build

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Brice, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. Sep 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM
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    If I was to swap I'd probably do a 2jz tbh or a 1j. But that probably won't happen, I almost have my spare 5vz and as money comes in I'll start setting aside the parts for a forged build. (Unless something happens of course :D)
     
  2. Sep 18, 2016 at 5:48 PM
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    I worded that poorly but what I meant was a hp vs torque comparison. The 22r is a torque monster similar to the 5vz so turning 40's is right in it's wheel house, a Camry motor doing the same..? Might have a little more trouble.
     
  3. Sep 18, 2016 at 5:50 PM
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    I guarantee the 3VZ-FE has more torque throughout the entire RPM range than a 22R. Its all about gearing.
     
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    The camry cams and springs were different and were made for higher rpm performance vs the 5vz, so yes you'd be correct, however the camry cams are a different story on a turbo'd 5vz, it should still make decent torque and high end hp due to the fact that it's bigger (and in this case) turbocharged.
     
  5. Sep 18, 2016 at 5:53 PM
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    Also true :D the 22 engine series is old and usually beat up by this point in their life if still stock. That being said they have a HUGE aftermarket and are essentially the small block 350 of the pre tacoma trucks because there's so much support.
     
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    Again, I'm talking about the hp to torque ratio. Yeah a 3.0 makes more torque than a 2.2, not really saying much. If you pumped them both up to an equal level the 22r would be dishing a hell of a lot more torque though but much less hp.
     
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    @Brice that Camry cam swap is a myth man. So many people talk about it, it's never been done. If you figure it out then hell yeah, that's bad ass but I wouldn't waste time on it. I've been told by both Gadget and LCE that the 5vz doesn't really benefit from cams. Not sure what that response really entails but the gist I've gathered is that you don't really see huge gains for the trouble :notsure:. LCE used to make cams for the 5vz but not anymore, must be a sign. But if you're set on it by all means, I'm sure everyone here would love to see the results :thumbsup:
     
  8. Sep 18, 2016 at 6:04 PM
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    Since I can get them dirt cheap I might as well, I'd personally love to set the record straight and be able to say "yes they fit for a fact" or "no they don't fit and you'll eat a valve" lol My results on a rebuilt turbo engine would be skewed to no end though since it would have forced induction, but hey maybe it IS worth it on rebuilt head with springs...We'll just have to see :D.

    And just to clarify,
    I literally have a 5vz sitting waiting, and in the same shop I can guarantee there are 3vzfe cams, I'm no joke and I've intended to do this forged build for a long time now, and I'll make good on my word. I had made a thread along while ago proposing this very idea, but now it's time to do it. (keyword there, time, and a lot of it! lol)
     
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  9. Sep 18, 2016 at 6:14 PM
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    Yeah, I've never seen them swapped either. Heard its not doable due to the distributor notch on the camry cams. Cams will work but you need to upgrade the springs and valves as well. Just a quick cam swap isn't going to do much and IIRC, you loose more power than you gain.
     
  10. Sep 18, 2016 at 6:15 PM
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    Good thing I intend to rebuild the heads too then :D
     
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    1GZ = x2 1JZ's. Just saying...
     
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    Yes. TiAL. With the Precision Turbo. With the Borg Warner turbo, I do not need to because it has one on the compressor housing. The closer the ball valve to the compressor the more efficient.
     
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    All the best man! Definitely need to get the record straight on this issue. In somewhat related news I finally got my truck up and running. 7 psi wastgate and methanol, it's runs good til about the 6-7 psi range then starts to lean out. I went with the full cx kit, didn't change a thing and so far I'm pretty happy with it. No codes after ~200 mile. Spool is a big laggy but as a few people have stated the turbo with the kit is a bit large and also a journal bearing type. Seems like it's more for a drag racing set up, making a ton of boost up high. I don't mind it but I'll definitely look for one that spools sooner when I need to replace it. Got a fic6, AEM 320 LPH pump, 650cc injectors and a manual boost controller in the mail :cheers:. Going to pump it to 12 psi initially and depending on how willing my gf is to drive me around all winter hopefully bump it up to 15. Probably aught to consider making my own build thread..
     
  14. Sep 18, 2016 at 8:58 PM
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    Dang I'm jealous :D Well Im glad thing are going good for yah! Where did you get the 650cc injectors btw? Also did you get an extension harness for the AEM?
     
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    It's not too bad man, you can do it. Just get you some good EWDs for your truck. The harness will look intimidating, but you'll thin half of them out, eventually. That writeup on the 4runner forum has quite a few mistakes in it, so don't take it as gospel.

    Also I'd love to have some nasty cams in my truck- a nice v6 lope would be kinda cool. Then maybe I can get some street cred LOL
     
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    lol yeah, I'm not sure much of a sound difference 3vzfe cams will make...
     
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    Though I'd throw my wiring cheat sheet up here. Again don't take it as gospel because of wiring changes through the years. Just a reference. I personally created this during/after wiring my F/IC-6. Get your personal EWDs here https://techinfo.snapon.com/TIS/Register.aspx -It's really not an optional thing. You obviously need to make sure it's wired correctly for it to work. $15 for 2 day unlimited all the content you can download, get everything while you're there!
     

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    You made that? cool stuff. I guess that website is to find a pinout for a specific engine and tranny combo?
     
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    Yes, that's my own work there thought it might help somebody in the future. Yes, that site allows you to download anything Toyota published for your year/engine/trans. Overall electrical wiring diagram (EWDs) and wiring diagram for every single component of your truck. Also shop manuals etc etc, everything that pertains to your specific vehicle.
     
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