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Brightest LED bulbs

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Highrob, May 20, 2021.

  1. May 23, 2021 at 12:27 PM
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    16TacomaSport

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    I have never been flashed using them and in my last truck I ran the Katana ones that were rated 2nd behind these and never got flashed while using them either.
     
  2. May 23, 2021 at 2:01 PM
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    It is usually just when it’s raining. They’re really bright, but at the same time, I go to work at 230am, so I want to see all the critters darting out in front of me, so the 2 cars I might pass will have to deal for now haha
     
  3. May 23, 2021 at 3:24 PM
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    “Much heat at all” compared to what?
    The indicator leds in your dash certainly don’t but high power leds most certainly do, to the point that they need to have dedicated heat sinks which are not for the driver. A driver only needs heat sinking if the source voltage is poorly matched to the led Vf and the driver has to buck or boost(step down or step up) the voltage significantly to get a match and generates heat due to inefficiency in the driver. 12v lights consist of arrays where this isn’t a problem. The arrays are constructed to closely match 12v input so the driver portion has little work to do to regulate current. Often there isn’t even a driver at all. These arrays are much more efficient than incandescent bulbs but still far from 100% of the energy is converted to light. Meso's dome and maps are low current but still get hot to the touch and don’t even have drivers. Any led headlight or taillight assembly would burn your fingers if you touched the business end. Light bars spread that heat over their length to disperse it but if you were to remove the cover and put a finger on any one of the leds it would blister damn quick.
    Incandescents get hott-er but high power leds are by no means cool
     
  4. May 23, 2021 at 3:32 PM
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    Far to much money spent.
    MORIMOTO 2STROKE 3.0 Best cut off and throw I have seen or used.
     
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  5. May 23, 2021 at 3:57 PM
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    I've run leds on my last two trucks and snowmobiles and have never had issues with the headlights not clearing on either.
     
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  6. May 23, 2021 at 4:15 PM
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    Compared to halogens or HIDs. I guess my wording was poor. I'm referring to the light itself. Yes, they need heat syncs in the back due to the heat the drivers make. But they are not good for winter driving because the light does not emit enough heat to self clear the lens.
     
  7. May 23, 2021 at 4:18 PM
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    I put my LEDs in a little too soon this year and winter struck again. I did have issues with it. There are actually videos showing the ambient temps of LEDs compared to halogens. In the example I saw the LED lights were only 6°F above the ambient temperature while the halogen lights were 64°F above ambient. I've also had coworkers who have OEM LEDs in their trucks complain about the clearing issues and have reported having to pull over to clear the lenses of slush and icy spray several times during drives.
     
  8. May 23, 2021 at 4:24 PM
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    Guess everyones experience varies. I drove home from a sledding trip in February and had to clear my grill multiple times to get the stupid warning light to go off. But headlights were fine. Been in whiteouts on sled where we couldn't see the next stake on the lake but lights were clear.
     
  9. May 23, 2021 at 4:26 PM
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    The Hikari Ultra Leds are probably the best and they are about equal in useful light to a 9$ philips halogen bulb.
     
  10. May 23, 2021 at 4:47 PM
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    A sled is different and generally you need the right conditions. Usually it is caused by slush and road spray. Just plain snow (especially on a snowmobile) will generally get clear on a smooth surface like that just from driving.
     
  11. May 24, 2021 at 7:57 AM
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    I have the Hikari ultra and they are great!

    Nice cut off line and the light is nice and bright. I highly recommend them.

    That’s about 10 feet from the wall.

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  13. May 30, 2021 at 5:42 PM
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    Sorry to thread jack but I'm in the same boat. Got the same exact truck as the op and I can't stand the yellow dull lights in both the headlights and fog lights. I've decided to get the Hikari ultra but I see they have a newer version for the same price. Would those be ok? And as far as the fog lights I'm not worried about crazy output I just can't stand the color. So would these new ones still work?
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08S37X311/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_JGEM0XHXDC73RGWPJCVR?_encoding=UTF8
     
  14. May 30, 2021 at 11:42 PM
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    Having ran several variations of LED and the best halogens we can get in our housings. The HID setup is vastly superior in every way to led in these housings. The LED being bidirectional produces obscene amounts of glare and very poor throw in a housing designed for halogens. In fact the Phillips H11 halogen is better than every single LED tested as far as light pattern, hotspot, and light cast above cutoff. I run XD phillips HID kit and after aiming them haven’t been flashed one time. There is no appropriate LED or HID for these housings.
     
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  15. May 31, 2021 at 6:07 AM
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    Mods? We don't need no stinking mods.
    I've yet to be flashed by anyone in my OR with OEM LEDs and standard suspension. Those things are as bright as an artificial sun, but they are aimed properly. I would think bigger tires and a jacked-up lift kit would account for some of the bright headlight hate.
     
  16. May 31, 2021 at 6:24 AM
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    You shouldn't have to re-aim them period when all you are doing is replacing bulbs. Re-aiming means there is far too much glare and you're losing throw distance while increasing your foreground light, which is often the reasons people think they have gotten upgrades by changing bulbs (even the cheapo bulbs).
     
  17. May 31, 2021 at 8:41 AM
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    I did 5K 35W HID in my low beam. Performance is much better, looks better, never been flashed. Auto high beam still works perfectly. I just did yellow Lamin-X on the fogs.

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  18. May 31, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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    I thought about those but the driver side light is very tight and wasn't sure that heat sink would fit so I went with the older version.
     
  19. May 31, 2021 at 10:15 AM
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    go for a drive to a remote worksite before the sun rises and hit a deer or worse a moose and you will “see” real quick why more light on highbeams is better/needed
     
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  20. May 31, 2021 at 9:11 PM
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    Our housings were designed for halogens, omnidirectional light output from a central source. There is no led that can create that currently, hikari is the best performing of the options but it’s still bidirectional creates a lack of hotspot, has lower lumen output and more light above cutoff than halogens ie glare. HID is the closest thing to halogen as far as replacements are concerned but they still leak more light above cutoff due to intensity but can be aimed to minimize. I’ve ran hikari, morimoto and diode dynamics in my truck and they all pale in comparison to the hid I have now and I got flashed frequently even after aiming. After aiming my hids not once. Factory halogens aren’t aimed properly half the time so definitely disagree with not having to re aim. The best replacement is a set of oem led housings but at $1200 that’s not feasible for everyone. Crashnburn80 has done an excellent write up on all our lighting options.
     
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