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Budget Build AR Questions!

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by Taco Salad Sport, May 8, 2015.

  1. May 8, 2015 at 5:04 PM
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    Taco Salad Sport

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    Hi,
    I already have my lower receiver and lower parts kit ordered.

    Looking at this:
    http://www.midstatefirearms.com/MSF...e-AR15-Upper-w-BCG-Charging-Handle-16blem.htm

    Love it and really want to buy it, but concerned about a front sight.

    What I really want is a red dot / front iron sight combo.

    I can't put the typical front iron sight on this barrel can I?

    10" rail is pretty short (too short to add a flip up at the end?). Should I just spend the money to get an extended rail?

    Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
     
    Taco Salad Sport, May 8, 2015
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  2. May 10, 2015 at 9:01 PM
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    Justn868

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    Yeah, a front sight mounted on that short rail would be worthless. The rail would be sufficient for a red dot only setup
     
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  3. May 10, 2015 at 9:07 PM
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    Taco Salad Sport

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    Just got my red dot!
     
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  4. Jul 11, 2015 at 10:18 AM
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    All of my guns have back up iron sights (BUIS). I run a number of SBRs (short barrel rifles) with total barrel lengths of 10.5" and 9" and the rails are even shorter. I don't trust electronics, and even my aimpoint T-1 has taken a shit on me after a few rounds down range. Having the ability to use iron sights on any platform is essential. If you are looking for inexpensive options consider the magpul MBUS, or MBUS PRO if you are looking to spend a little more.

    TLDR: I would get a set, and sight them in for contingency.
     
    djthemac, Jul 11, 2015
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  5. Jul 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM
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    How do you figure? There are guns with much shorter sight radiuses than that. Heck, the standard M4 carbine has a similar sight radius and that's a sub-moa capable rifle.
     
    LaRue Shooter, Jul 15, 2015
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  6. Jul 15, 2015 at 10:34 PM
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    You're fine with a flip up front sight on that 10" rail. It's still over the gas block on a carbine length gas system, which means it's right where an A2 front sight base+post would be on a standard M4 carbine.
     
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  7. Jul 16, 2015 at 6:50 AM
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    Why can't you put a normal ironsight on the barrel?
    I've seen plenty with front irons and rear flip up. Iirc you just have to get a front iron sight with the F stamp to work with mil spec rear on a flat top upper.
     
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  8. Jul 16, 2015 at 6:52 AM
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    Nvm just saw gas length
     
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  9. Jul 16, 2015 at 7:00 AM
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    I agree with several others here. I have MBUS on my 10.5" pistol and am quite accurate with them. You can always save up get a longer hand-guard to improve sight radius but imo it isn't necessary. Post up pics of your gun once you get it all together.
     
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  11. Jul 16, 2015 at 7:31 AM
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    BUIS only. It's accurate as a hell too.

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    Also OP, every rifle I own has 4 things:
    1) Red dot sight or optic
    2) BUIS
    3) Weapon mounted light
    4) 2 point sling

    A weapon mounted light is vital if you plan to use this weapon at night or in a SHTF situation. Docloco's SBR features an INFORCE WML. Great option! I also run a similar light: haley strategic WML on a thorntail offset mount
    http://haleystrategic.com/wml/

    Budget options include:
    Surefire G2X tactical
    $83 SureFire G2X Tactical, Black, High Output LED Flashlight, 600 Lumens #G2X-C-BK
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1C9B4VST60CQGZE0H907
    VLTOR Offset light mount
    Vltor SM-OCG Offset Scout Flashlight Mount
    http://www.amazon.com/Vltor-SM-OCG-...1-1-catcorr&keywords=vltor+offset+light+mount


    I have and run both setups.
     
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  13. Jul 21, 2015 at 8:45 AM
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    Im a fan of running BUIS. I love the Magpul Pro sights. I run their offset pro on my main AR platform. Only because I run a 1-4x powered optic. Even tho my optic has a etched reticle in case the battery dies...I still run BUIS only because I keep my 1-4x at 4x and like to transition between offset BUIS to 4x depending on what I am shooting.
     
    sirsaechao, Jul 21, 2015
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  14. Jul 24, 2015 at 9:19 AM
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    I was one of the very first buyers of the Vltor Scout Offset mount. Loved it, but it kept coming loose. I switched to Gear Sector's version - it rocks.

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    Unlike this example - I have mine mounted on the other side at 10 o'clock.

    https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/261/
     
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  15. Jul 24, 2015 at 5:15 PM
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    That looks awesome!
     
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