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Building sliders

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Wreckless_71, May 27, 2010.

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How should I build my sliders?

Poll closed Jun 26, 2010.
  1. Bolt on

    42 vote(s)
    56.0%
  2. Weld on

    33 vote(s)
    44.0%
  1. May 27, 2010 at 9:53 AM
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    Wreckless_71

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    So here's the deal, I want some sliders and I have the know how and all the tools available to me. I'm gonna attemt to build my own. I really like the looks and style of the rocky road rock sliders so that's gonna be my model (I'll attach a pic) but I'm curious what the best way to mount them is gonna be. What do you guys think? Bolt on or weld on?

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  2. May 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM
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    Wreckless_71

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    this is a better pic...

    supersliders_5.jpg
     
  3. May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM
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    98tacoma27

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    Weld on gets my vote
     
  4. May 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM
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  5. May 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM
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    This is a question that I am struggling with also.

    I've read that welding on is better because it stronger but welding on the frame has the potential to weaken the area around the weld if not done properly.

    Not being a welder myself means relying on the skill level of the guy at the shop to do it right. It is also hard to undo once done.
     
  6. May 27, 2010 at 10:34 AM
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    Wreckless_71

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    That's my issue exactly. If I weld em on and want to take them off ever, I'm gonna have to be VERY precise with the scarfing tip lol. If I bolt I'm drilling into the frame is that better or worse? I probably will be the last owner this truck sees being as she has 210k on her now. Blah, i don't know.
     
  7. May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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    quattrokiwi

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    Yep weld on, i just made some also
     
  8. May 27, 2010 at 10:49 AM
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    if your plan on using the sliders as sliders then weld. if they are for looks then bolt on :D
     
  9. May 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM
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    I you weld a thick plate to the frame and bolt to the thick plate rather than through the flimsy frame, and you use 4 or more grade 8 bolts it will be even stronger than a straight weld. this allow you to unboly and make changes to the sliders as well as remove them when you sell it..Just my 2 cents
     
  10. May 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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    I know everyone on here thinks that weld on is better but i would never weld to the frame of any truck. To be honest bolt on IS stronger. I have been a welder for about 8 years. 3 or 4 grade 8 bolts are stonger then a weld wround a peice of pipe. It is easyer to weld the plates on the pipe on a bench or on the floor then to try and weld them directly to the frame. welding over head you will not fet the penitration you need for them to hold the weight of the truck. This is just my opion. Im not going to get in another pissing match about it.
     
  11. May 27, 2010 at 11:10 AM
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    Im planning on getting bolt ons, one of these days. Bc I like the fact I can take them off easily if I want to.
     
  12. May 27, 2010 at 12:09 PM
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    rwcfrank's idea is pretty good, I never thought about that option. If I was gonna weld em on I would build them essentially the same as a set of bolt ons and weld on the inside, outside and bottom of the frame instead of just a round spot. I'm working on a CAD drwing of them right now... I'll post screen shots when I'm finished.
     
  13. May 27, 2010 at 1:09 PM
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    If you do bolt on, remember the frame is boxed in that area so make "U" brackets to go around the frame, then bolt through those. Im sure you already knew this but just making sure...
     
  14. May 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM
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    the frame is tempered and if you weld it you will remove the temper out of the frame so it will be better to bolt them on
     
  15. May 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM
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    I made my own and welded them on. They are strong as hell. I've landed on them several times and they don't even budge. When I jacked up the whole side of the truck by the slider with a hi-lift, I could not even measure any flex with a ruler.

    Regarding the heat weakening the frame issue. How many stories have you heard of people who broke the frame because they welded on it? Yeah, me neither. Just to reinforce the point, drilling a butt load of bolt holes isn't making the frame any stronger either.
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  16. May 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM
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    You are going to have to weld the sliders together anyways...right?

    Why not just weld them on?
     
  17. May 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM
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    Weld on if you actually want to use them.
     
  18. May 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM
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    yup weld them on if you plan to use them..... bolts can snap, the tensile strength of a weld is far superior to a bolt.
     
  19. May 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM
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    penetration has come up as an issue, if you are welding them on using MIG run it hot, SMAW will have better penetration if thats what your lookin for...
     
  20. May 27, 2010 at 7:30 PM
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