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Bumper integrated winch mount - product dev questions

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by usoffroad, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. Aug 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM
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    usoffroad

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    First off, I searched the forums top to bottom and didn't find any rules regarding product development so if this somehow breaks any rules let me know and I'll deal with it accordingly.

    I'm a consistent poster over on the FJ Cruiser Forum ('American') and own Texas FJ Forums as well.

    US Off Road builds a winch mount for the OEM bumper and I've had a few emails asking if we would build one for the 05+ Tacomas.

    The short answer is yes. However, I'm looking for two things right now.

    1. Interest. Is there really a large enough demand for it?

    2. Model/year changes. Any significant changes between 05 and 12 that would apply to an integrated winch mount? Obviously I'd need a few people in the DFW area that would like to provide a Tacoma for fitment/development and receive a mount in return for free.

    Would a mount that keeps the center plastic be preferred or something that would replace the center piece similar to the FJ mount pictured below?

    Any feedback would be appreciated.

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  2. Aug 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Welcome to T W! No significant changes have been made to the second gen Tacoma.
     
  3. Aug 25, 2012 at 5:14 PM
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    I would be interested depending on the price, and I would like to keep my lower valence
     
  4. Aug 25, 2012 at 5:34 PM
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    UHWMS makes one & it looks pretty tough, they have bids on their website. That FJ one looks pretty beefy though.
     
  5. Aug 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM
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    I don't think I'd be interested but I'd bet there are plenty who will be. The bumper design seems to lend itself nicely to this application with the lower valence having an opening already there. I'm subbed for interest.
     
  6. Aug 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM
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    I'm in!
     
  7. Aug 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM
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    This looks interesting.


    Also, I could be interested in letting ya'll use my truck in exchange for a free mount :cool:
     
  8. Aug 25, 2012 at 9:42 PM
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    I'd like to have a winch and be able to keep the stock appearance of my front bumper. I'm interested.
     
  9. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:06 PM
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  10. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM
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    I like that FJ mount. Definitely would like to see what you come up with. I have a 2012
     
  11. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:22 PM
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    Interesting...That looks pretty nice.
     
  12. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:35 PM
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    I would be interested purely for the extra strength and D rings
     
  13. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM
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    yes... D rings. so i guess that means ditch the lower valence.
     
  14. Aug 25, 2012 at 10:47 PM
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    Absolutely. I'm right here in dfw and would love to have one. I have. A 2012 off road. Please pm me if I can be any help.
     
  15. Aug 25, 2012 at 11:22 PM
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    Thanks for the feedback guys.

    Obviously the trick is the lower valance as it's not quite flat like the FJ which makes it a little easier to build. There is more than one way to skin a cat though...


    One thing about our mount is it's strength. I started with a used Lucrum as template then pretty much scrapped the design and started over because I felt there were many design faults related to overall strength.

    The winch tub is full height in the front, .250" thick in addition to the .125" that is used to form the 'valance' for a total of .375", the Lucrum's winch tub was only 3/4" tall up front and the shackle mounts were literally welded to the front of the .125". Our shackle mounts slide in to a hole cut through the front (.375") and penetration welded front and rear. We also gusseted the lower valance so it can literally be used as a skid plate...which I have done many times without it giving way at all. We also expanded the winch tub laterally so there is space to mount your solenoid at either end if you wish.

    And yet it's still only 57lbs, I think the Tacoma version would weigh less.

    It's a tough piece for sure.

    Having said that, one thing I won't negotiate on is overall strength, if it can't be built staying within certain design parameters then I simply won't build it.

    I've had a couple of you that are local PM me some information, if you own a 2005-2012 please do the same and we may have a quick tech session to take a closer look at this.

    Keep the feedback coming.
     
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    Do you think it will be cheaper than this one. I like the 2012 front end too much to replace it with a plate bumper
     
  18. Aug 25, 2012 at 11:37 PM
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    Impossible to say, right now I don't even know for sure how I would build it much less what the cost would be. One step at a time.

    Obviously there is a glass ceiling when it comes to price. It can't cost anywhere close to what a replacement bumper costs but I can tell you right now that there are some things I would certainly do differently regarding the product above...and I'll leave it at that for now.

    Heck, I'd just like to know how in the world you would get to the clutch lever on a winch. I carry the Viper line of winches and they are wireless in addition to wired controls so that makes things easy regarding the solenoid box...not that mounting it remotely is a problem, but you still need to get to physical part of the winch from time to time.

    Also, because of space restraints it looks like synthetic line, because of the fairlead, would be a necessity as well.

    Again, simply initial observations that may change as this progresses.
     
  19. Aug 25, 2012 at 11:45 PM
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    Well I think you have come to the right place to get your fabrication down. I'm gonna be at the TOTH next week with a buddy and he has a 2007 TRD FJ.
     
  20. Aug 25, 2012 at 11:51 PM
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    I wish I could go to TOTH myself but since I had a total brain fart several years ago and got married on the 28th I can't make it happen. I mean, who in their right mind gets married on a date that interferes with the opening weekend of dove season? (She's worth it but...doh :smack: )
     
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