Buzzy Vibration at certain RPM's..read before buying!

I grow more and more disappointed with this issue on a daily basis. I want to love this truck but this is a deal breaker. I will give them 90 days to come up with a solution. Tired Toyota forcing there "normal" BS on all of us. I am very serious if it's not resolved, would anyone be interested int getting one lawyer to represent us in this issue. Am I wrong in thinking we would have a better chance going this route...

 

if you are paying the lawyer fees (which will be for cleaning his carpet for laughing so hard he puked) then go ahead sounds teriffic


however

if you patiently and politely work with the dealer and regional Toyota field rep, you'll get actual cost-free results.

 

I agree. It's frustrating--I certainly have my impatient moments. But when my cooler side prevails, I realize it's still early in the product cycle for the 2016. Moreover, I believe Toyota is working on this despite the vague answers and "normal characteristic for now" lines some receive (note the "for now" and "at this time" caveats). Clearly, Doobie's FTS and product engineer already had clear suspects identified before they even looked at his truck.

Getting lawyers involved is expensive and time-consuming. If you make that move too early, the other side just digs in their heels and takes on a defensive posture. You could go to arbitration on your own or with a lawyer and prevail; however, the terms will likely be a buy-back with the agreement that you won't buy another Tacoma. So you'd need to be prepared to part ways with the truck--i.e., don't expect to get a new one. Very drastic given we're this early in the 3rd Gen. product cycle and knowing what we've shared.

All of us here really want the truck, with the issue fixed. Seems worthy to give this a reasonable amount of time to hear what happens with Doobie's case and with others here. For now I would simply keep pushing politely and ask to please keep the cases open. @Ben91z28, if you have a corporate field technician coming out, be sure to ride with him and help replicate the problem at its worst. You could even share what you've learned here and hear what he has to say. I'd be surprised if he doesn't know about it. My FTS said all the regions have weekly group meetings with the corporate engineering groups.

 

I just get frustrated when one post says there working in it and another that there not... I hope to share all the valuable info with them and be professional in doing so...

 

I'm following this thread, please inform me if anything comes up in regards to the 4 cylinder also having this vibration issue!

 

I’m so with you man. On one hand it’s great to get the information here and be encouraged that there’s progress, on the other it can be discouraging to read all the different answers people get and wonder. Especially when you’re one like me who gets sent by ToyotaCare to a dealership, told it’s within spec after comparing it to another truck, and to call the hotline back from time to time for any service bulletins ("yeah just call us back every now and then"). Still, I feel like I can get more info from a good forum like this than I can from Toyota at this point. Sometimes I feel like someone here will probably find a solution before Toyota does and share it with us all. I’m waiting it out for a little bit too because I really want to hang on to this thing, but not going to wait it out too long. If they don’t end up fixing it, I’d rather take a $ loss on an early trade than a bigger $ loss on a lawyer. I’d probably lose more on the lawyer fees! Good luck on your ride with the field technician! Keep us posted.

 

In post 321 the OP said Toyota was looking at the single exhaust manifold connected to the head as the culprit. This seems likely given the buzzing through the dash and steering, carrying right under the floorbed and pedals under which the center exhaust pipe runs. Maybe the dynamat will help the resonance carrying through to the doors, but I'm not sure what I could do directly at the manifold or center pipe to dampen this in the dash, steering column, and floorbed pedals? On the way home tonight seemed to be the worst I've had it. Had a sloppy low frequency buzz from 1000-1800, very strong higher frequency buzz from 1800-3000, with this very weird pulsating characteristic to it again. Also heard this higher-pitch droning noise from the engine in these ranges. Yet yesterday on the way home it was all but gone for the first 20 minutes of my drive before it crept back in again.

 

Did anyone see the video where Mike Sweers/ lead Toyota engineer says that the catalytic converters are placed and tucked up in very close to the engine to prevent theft of the catalytic converters. I'm not too concerned about converter theft. Maybe a redo of the exhaust system relocating the converters further down maybe even bigger flowing converters would help the situation. Just a thought...

 

If this is a exhaust manifold design problem why would only some trucks have the vibration? Seems strange some don't have the problem and some do. Toyota needs to fix this quick or they will be loosing a lot of loyal truck buyers. I have bought 3 new Toyotas and was looking for my next 2016 Tacoma when I read about this problem. I have been waiting for several months now and I don't know what I will buy if Toyota can't fix this. I guess I will go back to ford trucks.

 

It is probably that all the trucks have the same design issue (assuming it is a design issue). You just feel it to more or lesser degrees depending on some tolerances most likely... Some trucks seem to have the problem show up after a while. One truck has the issue present worse after the engine mounts were re-torqued. Some (sounds like most) I guess are lucky and you'll never feel it.

My truck has felt annoying at lower RPMs recently.

 

Mine was the one that seemed to worsen after the mount re-torques. Specifically, the sudden appearance in lower RPMs and the strengthening character in the 2,100-2,500 range. But the more I read some of the posts here--the variance, characteristic, presence in lower RPMs, and going from not noticing a thing to having it appear and worsen over time--the more I think maybe what I noticed after the mount adjustments was just a coincidence. In other words, re-torquing the mounts didn't really have any effect, positive or negative. This weekend I also took a trip where it was completely gone for the first 15 miles of my trip, and it was actually in the 60s temp-wise. I thought I hit the jackpot, but it came back after my first 15 miles. I can't predict or anticipate the behavior anymore. All I can say is, 1,000-3,000, I got 'em.

 

Yes I saw that video. He's the same guy who said the driveline vibrations were supposed to be gone in the 2016 models, and now some people are now reporting them on their stock '16 trucks. If this is a design issue with the converter placement, then I think a re-design means something we wouldn't see until the 2017 models. If this turns out to be exhaust, a remedy for the 2016 sounds more like some dampening or re-enforcement fixes to the exhaust system.

 

I've taken mine (Limited 4X4) in for the same issue at my dealer in Tulsa. The response is "compared with another 2016 tacoma. does the same thing. found it to be inherent to vehicle. called technical. case#######".

I hope all of these case numbers turn into a service bulletin and a fix.

 

We’re you told it’s normal and there’s nothing more they would do, or did they pass it off to that technical case # for further action? Kind of sounds like they're calling it inherent to the vehicle by comparison but still opened a technical case? Just curious.

 

There was nothing more they could do - other than to open a technical case. And they seemed to anticipate a TSB. And why wouldn't they. Dealers are often informed of pending TSB's from the manufacturer even though the remedy may not have been found yet. I can't imagine Toyota sitting on this.

 

my 4x4 trd access has 0 vibration.... I did notice my 2006 had this issue slightly after I heard about it... thought it was normal for a truck since it had been my first.... but so far nothing in th 2016

 

that sucks guys! mine is trouble free(knock on wood!) im approaching 1000 miles! sorry to hear yall are having these issues! Is the 2000rpm vibration kinda sound like an exhaust note?? i know mine the exhaust is a bit louder at 2000 rpm and up. Kind of a buzzy noise but in no way is it a vibration

 

I can't imagine them sitting on this either. I've reluctantly decided to take my Limited in to the dealer for this. I originally just reported to ToyotaCare and asked them not to send me to a dealer since it's a known problem with no apparent fix, and they didn't. But mine has reached a level at which I need to get it in so they experience and document first-hand what's going on (a resonance that causes the door and dash to buzz audibly is bad). I hate taking it in for something they can't fix yet but they need to feel this. I'll just ask that they do what they can and document to my case no.

 

Whether one truck has it, or not. This could definitely effect re-sale value and overall opinion of the truck.
I say it kinda 'sucks' for us all. Even if you're like me and plan to purchase in the near future. This is the single important factor that's holding me off at the moment. So yes, it still sucks 'cause I don't want to go back to the drawing board after I've been in the market for a new vehicle for this long.

 

The cats are not placed there [Sweers should know this BTW] for theft prevention, they are there to help with faster ''light up'' of the cats for emissions. It's a horrible place for cats in the real world due to the copious amounts of heat they shed.