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Camburg BALL JOINT UCA

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by nvdeserted, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. Mar 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM
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    nvdeserted

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    Anyone have any experience with these? Was articulation noticably improved over stock? Any complaints?

    Has anyone seen the Camburg ball-joints vs Uni-ball on the trail? Is the Uni-ball considerably more impressive?

    Naysayers: I'm just doing research. I can swap the ball joint and install myself so I'd stand to save some $$$ if these are worth it.

    Thanks
     
  2. Mar 29, 2010 at 7:46 AM
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    i dont know of anybody running them. your best bet is to prob call up camburg directly and ask them. camburg makes great products so i'm sure they are good but for $400 bucks and your arms still having ball joints, IDK
     
  3. Mar 29, 2010 at 1:45 PM
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    This is exactly what I'm thinking. But as much as I love wheeling and definitely push the Taco I still put 90% of my miles on the highway; I don't know if I want to 'waste' a fine racing product (uniball) on highway miles = more replacement, maintenace, and squeek.

    I've done some more research on these and supposedly they allow for as much droop as the uniball but not as much tuck (haven't seen any numbers tho). They will correct caster on lifteds and generally look cooler than comprable LR's IMO. The MAIN difference is the strength of the joint, uniball is much stronger than any ball joint setup. Then again I don't jump.

    I've ordered the Ball-Joint one's from Wheelers today and plan on doing a full ramp test once I get them on, before after kind of thing. I'll post my results in a couple weeks.
     
  4. Mar 29, 2010 at 3:34 PM
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    cool, your right that they look way better than the LR UCA's. good luck :thumbsup:
     
  5. Mar 25, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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    I know this is an old thread but can you press the ball joint out and put a uni ball in these ball joint uca's?
     
  6. Mar 25, 2011 at 11:49 PM
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    eight3one_offroad

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    I have them, no complaints. I don't do any high speed woops so this was my choice! I put new Moog ball joints as well.

    - Rich
     
  7. Mar 25, 2011 at 11:52 PM
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    Well that's good. They look good but I was just trying to be a cheap ass and see if I could buy these then press out the ball joint and then put in a uniball.
     
  8. Mar 25, 2011 at 11:54 PM
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    eight3one_offroad

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    Haha. I probably would just buy the Uniballs rather then do redneck style!
     
  9. Mar 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM
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    Hahaha ya that's probably the best idea. Might have to place an order for some spindles while I'm at it haha
     
  10. Mar 26, 2011 at 12:52 AM
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    Damn son! That would be a sick setup. Set you're 5100s at .85 with spindles and new UCAs... Cali lean well if thats the look you are. after
     
  11. Mar 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM
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    Negative. But, if you're handy at welding/fab you could easily just cut off the b/j cup and weld on a cup fit for u/b.
     
  12. Mar 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM
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    Na I'll probably get a 3inch leaf pack in the rear with some nicer shocks so it'll all look right.

    Hmmm... I wonder if it it would be cost efficient.
     
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    Hey guys I jist purchased these from sunny out of DownSouthMotorsports! Im currently running billy 51s @1.75 w/eibach 1.6 springs along with mactrac 4 inch spindles. So really looking foward to getting mine installed! Also my offset on my rims are 4.25 and im on 285/75/16s so that being said do you guys now if my offset will affect my ucas fitting especially since im on a spindle lift ????? Any help would be greatly appreciated:)
     
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    they'll clear the UCA with that BS
     
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    What ball joints would u guys recommend to run with the ball joint uca for camburg ?? Cant run moog apparently and my ball joints are prettt damaged its time for new ones
     
  18. Mar 6, 2014 at 11:08 PM
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    I have Camburg BJ UCA with stock bj's, they were fine to re-use. I would have gone Moog if stock had toomuch play to re-use. Apparently, the problem is the tolerance on the Moog dimensions. I have heard about 5/10 work fine, 5/10 bj's are too big. Freezing the bj and heating the UCA are probably your best bet for Moogs. If it seems like more force than necessary is required (ie 10 ton press) STOP. That is when the damage will occur.

    As far as other bj's, IDK :notsure:

    I don't know why Toyota considers the 2nd gen BJ a non-serviceable part. You have to buy the whole UCA to replace the stock bj. Mine pressed out/in no prob.
     
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    as Wheelers suggested,go with the pre-installed option. No risk to you as the customer.

    After making some measurements, the Moog parts and the Camburg UCA do meet the minimum spec to install. Freezing the BJ, and heating the UCA in the oven worked for me, along with a vise and the BJ C clamp. A press would have been better. Make sure the BJ starts straight as that is key.

    I chose BJ style over uniball, as the environment here for a DD involves mud, salt, winter snow, ice, etc. I felt a uniball would require constant maintenance, and not survive in the dirty environment.
     
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    Thanks guys. I guess ill just reuse my oem ball joints even though they need to be replaced:rolleyes: im assuming its to very common for ball joints to dsmage on tacos maybe thats why they dont sell them separately ??
     
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