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Can I get more lift out of my Walker Evans Coilovers?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by TAKoma907, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM
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    I have Walker Evans coilovers on the front of my truck set to 2.5" The front of my truck is still about 1.5" shorter than the back. I would like to level my truck, is it possible to put spacers in the front to level it?
     
  2. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM
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    toytec top plate spacer to get to 3" or crank the coilovers a bit more to get 3". With IFS on the Tacoma you will not *safely get more than 3" of lift.
     
  3. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM
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    So I can techincally install a 1/2 inch spacer in the front safely? And... What is IFS? Thanks for the help!
     
  4. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:20 PM
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    You can't put a spacer on top of a CO, only on Bilstein's or OME Setups...you can crank up the CO's to 3" of lift any higher will kill your CV's if you're 4WD...Also, what are you running for rear lift?
     
  5. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:20 PM
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    indépendant front suspension. your front suspension have a limited amount of travel. When you lift you start taking away from the downtravel due to the preload.

    So say you start with 8" of travel (pretty close to what we start with). Lift it 3", theoretically you have 1" of down travel left. Which means your ride gets to be more harsh as you bottom the strut assembly out more frequently, not to mention the more harsh ride just from the higher spring rate alone.

    So once you start lifting the truck past 3", it makes no sense. If you are 2wd and have some money, to level the truck the extra 1.5", I would personally get Camburg spindles. They give you a 4" lift just from the spindles and keep the factory geometry. They allow 4" of lift because they are not taking away from the travel, rather taking the hub assembly lower with a "taller" spindle.

    Kind of tricky but I think I explained it pretty well. Someone chime in if I said anything wrong please.
     
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    :facepalm: I totally did not think of the fact that your running walker evan. Ya what he said! ^ just crank the coilovers a bit more to get the 3" you want.
     
  7. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM
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    Yeah, I cranked the crap out if it last night but I couldn't get any more lift. Which was weird. It just stiffend the ride. I still had about two inches left of threads too so I figured it would have worked. I have Bilsteins in the back as well as a 1.5" AAL. I would much rather lift the front then lower the back, because lowering just sucks... Maybe I should just get an RCD 4" lift kit?
     
  8. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM
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    Are you 2wd or 4wd? Drop brackets dont do much for ground clearance if you wheel.
     
  9. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM
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    And yes, it is 4wd
     
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    Damn ok if thats the case ya your doing to have do go with something like that.

    You cranked them up, achieved no lift just a harsher ride? That is weird...I know the harsher ride is expected but not achieving any lift is weird.
     
  11. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:32 PM
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    Yeah thats what I was thinking? So camburg spindles? Will those let me keep my Walker Evans? or will i need new front shocks?
     
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    They wont work with 4wd unfortunately. You will have to go with a DB like the RCD if you want 4"+
     
  13. Mar 21, 2011 at 9:37 PM
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    Gotcha... And I think that kit comes complete with everything including shocks. So maybe I'll have some WE for sale. haha. All this work for a level truck!
     
  14. Mar 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM
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    wat?
    what series WEs are you running? i'm running 3" lift w/ ~3 1/4-3 1/2" of thread showing from the top of the collar. getting ready to rebuild them and install some beefier King coils onto the WE shocks.
     
  15. Mar 22, 2011 at 7:17 PM
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    Im not really sure what they are cuz they came with the truck and the seller didn't know anything about them either. Apparently the first owner put them on. The coils look like this though.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. Mar 22, 2011 at 8:38 PM
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    Trading in Walker Evan's for a drop bracket lift is ridiculous is you are going for anything other than looks.

    The easiest thing to do is just get a smaller lift for the back if you want a more level look.
     
  17. Mar 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM
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    wat?
    those are the older 2.0s like i have. the newer 2.5s have the integrated top plate and look like the SAWs.
     
  18. Mar 22, 2011 at 10:33 PM
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    Yeah... however comma I dont want to lower... That just feels like going backwards... but maybe I'll have to
     
  19. Mar 23, 2011 at 4:23 AM
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    You'd be lowing your ground clearance if you went with a drop bracket.
     
  20. Mar 23, 2011 at 7:19 AM
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    wat?
    The original install sheets from AP state that to have 3" of lift, you need between 3 1/4 and 3 1/2" of thread showing. The higher amount on the drivers side. Measure the amount of threads showing.
     
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