can i tow this safely?

You mean like this

 

Awesome picture. I sure hope it was taken for a joke

 

At just over 4000 pounds loaded it's within tow specs. You problem will be payload. A Tacoma has a pathetic payload capacity. You can very easily go over it.

Get a good WHD and a good brake controller. The p3 brake controller is awesome. You'll need the Toyota pigtail when ya purchase it too. I use the husky centerline WDH and it works well but I'd like to pick up the Anderson hitch. Both are WDH with anti sway.

 

Haha exactly!
Kick that pig off the jacks, let's see what it'll do!!

 

Gonna be more like 8-11 mpg that what mine got towing my 5000 pound travel trailer. Truck will be at 4000rpm

 

Very good, and often overlooked point- small truck, large flat surface above is like a parachute.

 

maybe
Yes it was. Figured I screw with the towing forum a bit a while back.

 

That 2WD Sport should have no issues. Might want to put it in S4 though.

 

So I'm not too familiar with the towing terminology. What is the problem with the tacoma payload that would be an issue?

The truck is rated to tow 6400 and my loaded camper will be around 3800. I don't understand what the payload issue is. Thank you

 

so you are only going to pack 600 pounds of stuff? unless you run your fresh water tank empty the water is 8.5 pounds a gallon. i like to run about 20 gal to use the bathroom and sink for hand washing while traveling. thats 170 pounds alone.. what kind of supplies ya bringing? grill? lantern? blankets? chairs? outdoor carpet? bikes? you will be shocked at how fast the weight of the stuff you bring adds up..

look on the door sticker for payload. its what the truck can carry in the passenger compartment and bed combined. we are talking passengers, luggage, floor mats, cell phones...etc.. anything in the truck.. my double cab long bed offroad only had a payload of 900 pounds.. your trailer has a tongue weight of 320 pounds it looks like. subtract that from the payload and thats what you have left for passengers, luggage (in the truck) and anything that may be in the bed... very very easy to go overweight with a tacoma. watch with airbags and all that crazy suspension stuff. they are meant to basically stop some bounce not increase payload. too much weight will put un-necessary strain on parts and can effect the operational safety of the truck. yea tons of people will tell you they go way over and everything was fine but i prefer to be within in the trucks limits for safety and liability reasons.






i'm not trying to bust balls here. this is some of the stuff i learned after i bought my truck and camper... i knew the trailer i was buying.. 3750 empty/5500 loaded so about a thousand pounds lighter then my tow capacity. thought cool i'm all good.. hooked the trailer up and all was good. drove 10 hours home with the thing at 3500-4200 rpm. started putting necessities in the trailer and then the truck dropped ass some, the truck really has to work to pull that weight. now we get to payload. it was 900 pounds on my truck. shit after me the wife, daughter and dogs got in we were close to 500 pounds into the payload capacity.. now add tongue weight of the trailer and that heavy ass hitch for the weight distribution and if i'm not over now its damn close. couple things in the bed and i'm over.. god knows i know i had to be a couple hundred over easily... the truck towed it, i never felt unsafe in it but damn it takes forever to get to speed and up hills we are talking 4500rpm to maintain a half decent speed. the other thing i didn't realize until i bough a bigger truck is how much that tacoma wore me out towing... beat me up... in comparison the GMC we bought with the 6.2L motor,10 speed trans and max tow package is a dream to drive while towing. set cruise at 70 and its a relaxing drive. the extra weight of the truck and more motor just makes a huge different towing those weights. those are my experiences, i'm sure some will disagree but until you tow that stuff back to back with the two different trucks i'm not sure someone will understand. the added plus is the GMC when unloaded on the highway gets better mpg then my tacoma did..lol



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not sure if you are on facebook but there are a few very good travel trailer pages that have some knowledgeable people on them that could explain all this way better then i can.

 

I'd say yes you can. I could tow that with my old Liberty too.
As others said you need a trailer break controller. There is no way you could safety stop without trailer brakes. I even have them hooked up to tow a pop-up. On that you will also want weight distribution hitch and it should have some sway control included.

You don't need to spend the coin for the Prodigy P3 brake controller. It is the most popular and high rated one but a lesser expensive proportional model like the PrimusIQ that I have is good enough. It is less expensive but only lacks the fancy display and buttons. All the basics are about the same.

 

Re: payload discussion post #31. When you get your trailer and you are set up, trailer stocked, water tank filled, truck has a full tank of gas, etc.- stop at a truck stop that has a public weight scale (Love's usually has one). Pay the fee to weight your rig, usually about $12, and drive up on the scale. If you haven't done this before its pretty darn easy. Just follow the directions on the posted signs. You will be surprised at how much your, ready to go, fully loaded, rig weighs. Just an FYI.

 

You do realize that camper is over 14,000 dry weight yes?

 

expanding on that if you really want to see if your truck should be towing that trailer here is a pretty good spreadsheet to fill out. you'll have to weigh the truck and trailer together with hitch load bars in place, weigh the truck and trailer with hitch load bars un-hooked and then weigh just the truck alone...

 

https://vehq.com/weigh-travel-trailer/

 

Biggest thing with towing these trailers with our little trucks is the wind drag. The taller the camper is the harder it is to pull. I’ve got a 14’ Jayco Baja edition so it’s just under 10’ tall and it is a parachute if there is a headwind. If I’m fighting the wind I get about 7mpg and regular towing on the highway at 60mph I get around 12. If you plan on running on the freeways for extended periods of time I’d recommend a secondary tranny cooler. Especially since I think the 3rd gens factory trans cooler runs off a thermostat. The aerodynamics of a trailer matter more then the weight of the trailer to a point. I can load my truck and trailer down with hunting and camping gear and it tows about the same as when it’s empty. Yours should tow that trailer fine. If you start running into problems then upgrade stuff.

I’ve got a B&M trans cooler
Redarc brake controller (sweet)
Firestone air bags
Curt weight dist hitch system
3* exhaust cam gears
Bluetooth OBD2 Torque pro ap
Bilstein 5160s

The reservoir shocks in the back made the world of difference when towing and hauling gear around

 

I ended up buying a used Coachman 24QRB this weekend. Slightly heavier than the one you listed above. 3818 GVWR, 470 tongue weight.

I had already been preparing my truck for this, so I already had installed a brake controller, Dobinson's 'medium' leaf springs, and Firestone air bags with Daystar cradles. I already had a weight distribution hitch.

I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Tacoma handled the trailer. The upgraded suspension was money well spent. 20 psi in the air bags had my truck sitting level.

The truck was very happy cruising at 55-60 mph, and when I hit some big grades over Pacheco Pass, speeds dropped to 45 mph.

 

Okay so back to the payload discussion.
The sticker on the inside door of my car says "the maximum Combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed 1000 pounds"

Is that 1000 pounds my payload? That seems low.
When I google 2018 tacoma payload it says a lot more than that.

So if my tongue weight is 10% of the total trailer weight, which will be around 4000 pounds fully loaded, that only leaves 600 pounds for passengers and whatever I want to load in the bed?

Seems low.

 

yes. thats you payload.. my tacoma only had 900 pound payload.. every truck is a little different depending how its equipped.

tacomas are nice little trucks.. they are meant to be a jeep like vehicle that you can throw stuff in the bed on that weekend trip to home depot. the reality of it is its just not very truck like in its capacities...