Can't get the tire off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7PWwrcGREM

:50 to 2:00 is the important part

 

if it is a steering tire stick something between the frame and the tire turn it against it use the power steering to pop it off.

 

I don't have any info to get the rim off but I do think I know why it happened...that rim is hub centric, so, there is NO room for that center cap when mounting the rim. when the rim was mounted with that center cap installed its was basically pressed on like a big ass bearing(metal from the center cap is totally squished/wedged between the hub and wheel) when the lugs were tightened down. You pry were using some Chevy alloys weren't you?(not hub centric so those caps work just fine with those rims)

 

expect to need a new rim, most likely the rim wasn't ever right and your just finding out now.

go where they have a lift and put it in the air, loosen a few turns each but don't remove the lugs, use a 30 pound sledge hammer on the rim to break it free, then put your rim and tire back on and go to the salvage yard to get a proper fitting spare rim.

just don't go Hercules on the rim, you don't want to damage the rear axle bearings and seals so whack it in and out in a few spots as you rotate around it so you get it broken free and give it a damn good soak with wd40 or penetrating fluids

 

kick the f**k out of it! Get some real good hits on the top of the tire, maybe over inflate it a little so it absorbs less impact.. looks like you put the center cap on there with a hub centric wheel, so the metal is squished between the hub and the wheel. Only way to break that free is brute force

 

Put it on jackststands and use the widow maker and some boards against the frame to push it off. Wheel is most likely rurnt anyway.

 

I don't know how to get your wheel off, but however you do it check the studs afterward. If there are any burrs or the lug nuts don't go on smoothly then clean the threads with a die.

 

So.................. did you get it?

 

This is exactly what happened. He needs to loosen the nuts like several people have mentioned and do a short hop in the driveway.

I love your assumptions and recommendations.

 

Applying heat to the wheel with a butane torch, before pounding, might make things easier.

 

The sledgehammer approach seems to be the one that would likely work, if anything. I've tried it but without rotating the tire 90* as you suggest. Also, I don't have jack stands so about all I can do is stack 2x6's. I'm also finding it difficult to get a good, solid smack with the hammer with the limited room underneath the truck. I'll give it another go before the big game.

Also, why deflate the tire?

 

"if" the rim isn't hub centric then its likely someone grabbed a rim from a camry or corolla because it had the same bolt pattern yet the hub size isn't the same.

as to the 30 lb sledge, a large hammer delivers a good "shock impact" without needing a hard blow to do it so it is much safer then banging the shit out of it with smaller hammers.

and the rim may have been bent since it was obviously forced on too tight and couldn't seat correctly.

expectations of the rim being reusable after it is forced off should be low if being realistic, but it might be ok.

you and others think its fine to risk the weight of the truck ripping the wheel loose (along with bending or breaking the studs off the hub) and you think this is god advice, maybe if you want to do more damage to the truck

 

A filled tire has a good bounce to it.
By using a piece of wood and rotating the tire, the wood hits the wheel/tire instead of the sledge. It also gives a greater area of impact which can help to not damage the wheel/tire.
With the center cap on, it basically became a press fit. By rotating the tire between hits, it will "walk" the wheel off instead of trying to pry it off.

 

no, I was never that stupid, that's why I said hit the rim with it. duh!

I assume if its loose enough to move with leveraging a board on it then he wouldn't be needing help asking how to get it off. yes of course if a board works that's the safest way but he said it was frozen on solid so a hammer to shock it free is most likely the thing it will need but prying with leverage (when possible) is always preferred to hitting something

 

Sorry to confuse you keakar, that post was directed towards OP. My signal is spotty today, so it takes a little bit for it to get through.

 

This. The spare wheel was most likely OEM, so it was designed to go on the hub without the center cap.

I recommend acquiring a wheel puller. Too much hammering/prying risks damaging the wheel hub / halfshaft in the axle.

 

The sledge hammer is the way to go. Sledge hammer to the back of the wheel. I've had to do this a quite a few times working at a tire shop. People put the wrong wheels on more than you would think. You may have to hit it really hard quite a few times. And heating it first would help.

 

Keaker, I believe he means hitting the 2x4 WITH the sledge(as to not create damage)....not prying or trying to leverage it off...

On another note he doesn't have a Camry or corolla rim. Its an OEM spare. Camrys and corollas don't have anywhere close to a 106mm hub bore. Or six lugs.

 

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well he said he put THE spare tire on, he never said he was sure it was the OEM spare tire.

do you have any idea how many trucks are running around with non OEM spares on them?

also a camry rim wont fit a 4wd but it will fit the lug bolt patterns on a 2wd taco and fit tight enough to wedge itself on the hub so its jammed in place, espescially if the cap is left on.

also dodge rims will fit the lug bolt patterns on chevy trucks but fit tight enough to wedge it on the hub so its jammed in place. its a fairly common issue on old trucks to find previous owners just threw any spare tire under them. so you cant "assume" (as you are doing) that it is an OEM spare rim unless you know the history of the truck.

 

keakar, you've been giving wrong advice again and it's time to put the keyboard down...

It's a 6-lug hub as the pic in Post #1 shows, so the whole Camry thing is out the window.