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Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by 8ballshifter98, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Feb 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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    8ballshifter98

    8ballshifter98 [OP] Giggity giggity, giggity goo

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    Had a wee bit of a misunderstanding yesterday that led to my truck being almost completely underwater. A friend led me to a trail that I had never taken on and he promised me it wasn't anything too deep. I wasnt worried about getting stuck, that doesnt really cross my mind. But I got about a mile and a half into the trail, which had a lot of mud holes, that were pretty dang deep, and I had made it through those all of them pretty easily. That's where I came across a pretty big one. Prolly a hole about 70 yards long, a car width and a half wide, and depth to be determned :rolleyes: Nothing much compared to what I've seen on this site, but definitely the hardest thing I had tried. But I hit it hard, came in running pretty high in 3rd gear, 4 lo. I Started on the high right side of the puddle where it looked like the ruts were shallower. Well about half way through I started to bog down and had to kick it in reverse, broke my ruts and pushed farther forward once I shifted back. And that's where things went wrong. What my friend failed to mention is that 4wheelers come up there and just sit in this hole in the summer while gassin it and diggin up the soft shit at the bottom. Well at this point I was right about up to the wheel wells, because I don't have a lift, and then broke through the rut on the right side while pushing forward, and slid down in the right rut. It was about 4 feet deep. I kept on keeping on and was actually moving forward still when my engine cut off. My friend in the passenger side started freakin out because water was coming in the cab and after my truck stopped moving my passenger side was at about a 65 degree tilt with water coming a little ways up the hood. My rear left was actually barely in the water because of how the truck had slid sideways and I wasn't terrified that the truck was going to tip, but the angle shook me. I get out after I realize that there's close to 4 inches of water at the base of my passener side door inside the truck. And above all my baby won't start. My friend had left to go get some 4wheelers before I made it to this hole because he decided that his pos chevy wouldn't even make it down that far after he saw the first strip. Needless to say once he caught up with me I was on the verge of beatin some ass. I Got my cousin down there though after a while of waiting, and he was able to get me out with his beast of a f150 (not your average ford). I'll be spending all day today taking the intake apart, removing the oil pan and spark plugs, and checking the starter and starter cylinoid because I couldn't get my engine to turn over. My cousin actually had to tow me home with a tow rope hooked up to my chasis, a 30 minute drive.

    Morals of the story:
    1. Don't trust dumbasses

    2. Don't go first on a trail that you've never run before and "could be too deep, but you just aren't sure"

    Granted there was a lot of driver error when I did this yesterday, but it could have been prevented

    Ill post pictures later, as painful as it will be
     
  2. Feb 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM
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    Kyouto42

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    Sucks man, sounds like you hydrolocked...
     
  3. Feb 14, 2010 at 1:08 PM
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    AzogSS

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    Sorry to hear that man.
     
  4. Feb 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM
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    aficianado

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    you are hydrolocked! dont just go spinning things with the starter. pull the plugs. turn motor by hand.

    wow, deja vu..didnt we just finish talking about this with someone? sorry, not to be harsh..100% your fault..dont blame the friend. good luck..please keep us posted.
     
  5. Feb 15, 2010 at 1:10 PM
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    8ballshifter98

    8ballshifter98 [OP] Giggity giggity, giggity goo

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    haha yeah, it was definitely my fault. I was just pretty pissed because I didn't know the place. I've got the new starter in and if it doesnt turn over Im gonna have to do just that and turn the motor by hand
     
  6. Feb 15, 2010 at 1:11 PM
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    Cars0n`

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    i hope you never did any damage internally. a friend of mine hydrolocked his acura interga and bent the connecting rods in his motor. not fun stuff.
     
  7. Feb 15, 2010 at 1:16 PM
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    you see, the starter has lots of torque. if you try it (turn motor) with the starter, and you are hydrolocked...GAME OVER. fluid is not compressable, air is. remember that kid toy where you put water in a rocket, pump it up and it launches? same principle. anyways, the fluid (water) being incompressible will bend your connecting rods, when the starter spins the motor.

    plugs out grasshopper.
     
  8. Feb 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM
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    blackwatertaco

    blackwatertaco If you ain't stuck, You ain't tryin hard enough.

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    Afi is right- If you don't pull those plugs out you run the risk if blowing/bending stuff in your engine. You can use the starter with the plugs out (at least I've seen it done in the past) so the water can escape but you need to be careful jsut doing stuff.

    And lesson learned....Following folks just because you don't wanna man up and say "I think this is a bad idea" or because they say it'll "be okay" is a horrible idea. Good Luck getting your truck runnin again!!
     
  10. Feb 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM
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    Taco Guapo

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    Not saying this necessarily applies to the current post.
     
  11. Feb 15, 2010 at 4:05 PM
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    think of it this way: brunes is the friend telling you not to go into the mud puddle. the potentially hydrolocked motor is the (new) mudpuddle. are you going to listen this time? :)

    i'm rooting for you! hope this turns out excellent.
     
  12. Feb 16, 2010 at 10:16 AM
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    wheres the pics? lets see some carnage.

    oh and good luck with your truck, hope nothings broke too bad.
     
  13. Feb 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM
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    Isn't it "Hey yall watch this!" :cool:
     
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