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Carry with a chambered round???

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by cgs2k2, Feb 22, 2013.

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do you keep a round chambered when you carry?

  1. Yes - keep one chambered

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  2. No - i don't (post your reasoning)

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  1. Phlip4x4Sport

    Phlip4x4Sport Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the lead on Laser Rounds for practice. I researched this last night and I will be getting this:
    http://www.centrolutions.com/products/lasr-laser-activated-shot-reporter
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    I will carry condition 3.

    I am not military or police. Both of which I have the utmost respect for. I do not have to put myself into questionable situations. I don't have any visions of grandeur. I am a civilian that has limited use for a tool, but even if you come after the start, you can't bring a sammich to a gun fight.

    You mention the gun like it is your only tool. As if they get too close for you to use your gun then you are toast. Someone here in another thread mentioned that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    I am not too proud to change my path, cross the street or just stand my ground at an intersection with many escape avenues open, watching, while someone questionable passes by. My grappling and disengaging skills along with my situational awareness have kept me safe many years walking through Boston, Los Angeles, Atlanta and others while not carrying a gun or a knife.

    My intent for carrying is to be prepared if there is a psycho shooter. I will trust in my ability to move and/or find concealment while I draw, rack and aim.

    If there is war, riot, etc.. then I will go to condition 1. Until then, 95 percent of the other people on this planet are not out to get me, and an additional 4.9999 percent do not want to kill me out right, and I will do my best to be aware of and avoid the other .0001 percent.

    here is a link to another discussion where the author proposes condition 3 is valid for some people and there are many comments for and against below:
    http://thinkinggunfighter.blogspot.com/2010/09/myths-of-israeli-method-of-carry-or-why.html
     
  2. skidooman

    skidooman I'm your huckleberry

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    This has probably been said already, as I only read about 1/3 of this thread.
    While your adrenaline is going and you're all amped up, you will be lucky if you are HALF as good as your BEST training. There is too much that can go wrong while trying to manipulate a weapon. Your hands will probably be sweaty, you could short stroke that slide, drop the gun, or completely forget. One reason I dont carry my 1911(other than its huge and heavy) is the safety. One more thing to have to remember. I have been through quite a bit of training with it, so I am comfortable with it, but I prefer the ease of my Glock, or Airweight. Whatever you decide, train. I thought I was "good enough" before I decided to seek help. Turns out I was far from decent. I'm better now, but still nowhere near as proficient as I should be.
     
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  4. Phlip4x4Sport

    Phlip4x4Sport Well-Known Member

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    You just made my case for me carrying condition 3.

    If I can not be clear headed enough to rack a slide I would be more of a danger to others than a help. Imagine my chance at being able to:
    1) Always point the gun in a safe direction
    2) Always keep your finger off the trigger
    3) hmmm.. hmmm..hmm. hmm
    4) Know your target and what is beyond

    Everyone says until you are in that situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once I have been in that actual situation I can make a decision on wether I should carry condition 1. Until then, I need to be a responsible gun owner.
     
  5. skidooman

    skidooman I'm your huckleberry

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    If thats what you are comfortable with, that is fine. But to add more steps that take up precious time, and add more opportunities for user error, doesnt seem like a good plan to me. To add about the bolded part, hopefully none of us are ever put in a situation where we figure out our shortcomings. :cheers:
     
  6. Phlip4x4Sport

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    I hope none of use are ever put in that situation as well.
    God Bless our troops and Emergency Responders :cheers:
     
  7. skidooman

    skidooman I'm your huckleberry

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    Indeed! :thumbsup:
     
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    I was put in a situation once many years ago. My weapon was not in a ready state and therefor I made the choice to not go for it as I didn't think I had time to ready it without the assailant killing my GF. I was eventually able to take the situation under control (the bruised man received 3 life sentences) but for several hours many lives were endangered. Tho there's no way to say with certainty what would have happened if I'd chosen the immediate end route, it would have been nice to have that option be a little more ready. Very rare moment indeed and I assume I won't have that kinda luck twice in my lifetime. There's also the possibility that I could have preemptively stopped it, but I just didn't see it coming. At 20 years age I didn't know psycho killers actually existed in real life, and certainly didn't expect to find one in my driveway!
    I have little faith in my fighting/grappling skills and therefore am more apt to fear a hand to hand situation while I'm carrying to turn into a loss of my weapon, hence my opinions on carrying ready. I can't legally carry in public (California) so I only carry at home. I spend a lot of time here and usually working on stuff throughout the yard during the day. In the evenings my doors & windows are always open if the weather is decent. I used to rely on having guns throughout the house being ready to get to in any room, but I came to realize that one in the pocket at all times is a much more useful option even tho a little inconvenient at times. You just never know when 'that guy' will jump your fence and burst into your house or even casually walk up your driveway as has happened. As a bonus, solicitors don't visit my house any more:D
     
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    I find having range markers clearly visible along the driveway tends to be an effective deterrent.
     
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    LAoffroadin BURY ME WITH MY TACO!!

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    an unloaded gun is just as good as a hammer....
     
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    That'd work great at my house, it's about 120' long.


    Hammers swing and hit better than most guns.
     
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    I dont carry chambered because it's a Glock, and im not a cop. I practice racking with snap caps all the time. Personally I enjoy myself more knowing there is not a critical duty in battery aiming down my femoral artery. If I were entering a zone of known heightened danger I might carry chambered. But I don't normally find myself in areas where I feel I couldn't rack the slide as part of my draw. ("But what if ur racking arm is dead?") then the front sight post off the shoe, the leg, or any surface works too. Other guns than the glock, different story.

    Afterall, I did only carry a knife most of my life...and If I cant survive racking a slide, then oh well, I hope the bastard burns!
     
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    I carry chambered. All of my CCW's have manual safeties, so the round gets chambered and the safety gets set.
     
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    Loaded but not chambered

    My reason is stupidity...I can be capable of it at times, even with a weapon.

    But a quick rip of the slide and I have hot 40 coming at ya.
     
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    I do not carry - not here in CA, no sir - but at home the semi has an empty chamber (I can chamber it faster than taking the safety off).

    My revolvers, were I to carry them, would be hammer down on a spent shell. I like my balls where they are. No possible AD, you gotta pull the trigger and when you do, it rotates onto a live round and you're good.

    If my one semi didn't shoot so good - freakin' tack driver - I'd be all revolver all the time.

    Someone earlier asked why. This is why:

    http://thinkinggunfighter.blogspot.com/2010/09/myths-of-israeli-method-of-carry-or-why.html

    I'm not a cop or superhero and have never been in a gunfight. If there is a merciful God I never will be. I am a good shot. I am a shitty fighter. I'm smart enough to know the difference and old enough that my testosterone doesn't get in the way of a realistic appraisal of my abilities.
     
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    Just ask Dianne Feinstein to give you special dispensation to carry a gun. She got one for herself, I'm sure she'd be happy to get one for you!:rolleyes:
     
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    You can get a permit in San Diego.

    Los Angeles, Orange, and Imperial are the only counties in SoCal where it is impossible to get a permit.
     
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    Don't know who told you this, but it's wrong. While San Diego is technically issuing permits, San Diego does not actually issue permits, with some very, very rare exceptions. Mostly for politicians. Shocker, I know.
     
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    skidooman I'm your huckleberry

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