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Carry with a chambered round???

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by cgs2k2, Feb 22, 2013.

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do you keep a round chambered when you carry?

  1. Yes - keep one chambered

    717 vote(s)
    84.1%
  2. No - i don't (post your reasoning)

    136 vote(s)
    15.9%
  1. Jan 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM
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    Lou Slink

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  2. Jan 30, 2014 at 12:13 PM
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    Quoted for truth.
     
  3. Jan 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM
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  4. Jan 30, 2014 at 12:22 PM
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    That's stupid. Not saying you are, but the SOP.
    I assume you guys weren't the first line of defense. Even still though, I would rather know everything, up to firing, was in working order.
     
  5. Jan 30, 2014 at 2:17 PM
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    All the agencies in my area leave all long guns "cruiser ready". Nothing in the chamber. If/when the rifle/shotgun gets pulled, a round is chambered. My duty weapon ALWAYS has a round chambered, same for my backup gun.
     
  6. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM
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    I carry chambered just to be clear. I also agree with you because that's kinda where I was going with that statement. You pull out a gun whether chambered or not and point it at someone, that's imminent use of deadly physical force.
    So be ready for the consequences... And I'm not saying you personally, just in general.

    Like I said earlier, this whole chambered round/un-chambered round shouldn't be debatable. You have a gun, it takes ammo, put ammo in it, period.
    Their are a lot of "hot heads" or people that love the idea of carrying a gun and showing it off. That's the issue. It makes them feel big and they like the attention. When I carry (off-duty) it's concealed and not even thought about unless I need it. No one should know it's there and it shouldn't be talked about. It should NOT be taken out unless you're going to fire it or put it in a locker.
    Anyone responsible enough to carry/have a gun should have no issues with a chambered round. Anyone NOT responsible enough shouldn't have the gun in the first place and that's when you will have an issue of someone getting hurt or killed.
     
  7. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:19 PM
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    That's because, depending on the model, the firing pin slides freely and can hit the primer from abrupt movements or impacts.
     
  8. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM
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  9. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:24 PM
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    /end thread
     
  10. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM
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  11. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM
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  12. Jan 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM
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    I can understand US law enforcement not having a round in their M4s, b/c it's sitting in the car, and isn't the first line of defense. Plus sitting in the car, it is safe from the elements, so unless they neglected to do a function check, it should chamber the round without issue, and shoot when switched to Pew.
    A soldier pulling guard is usually carrying/slinging an M4 as their weapon, so it needs to be ready to go. It's exposed to wherever the dude is walking around. Sand/mud is a bitch. Hell, I've had misfeeds on the first round at a range due to shit getting on the mag, just a shit mag, or combo of both. Not usual, but I'd rather know I have a round ready to go, then rely on the fact that the first round should go in smoothly.

    I know we can "what if" and "hypothetic situation" this all day. I prefer to take all the "what if's" away that I can before Pew time.
     
  14. Jan 31, 2014 at 4:30 AM
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    I trust having my mossberg without a chambered shell. I know that if i need to rack it, it will chamber.

    I trust not having a round chambered in my AR. I know that if I rack it, it will chamber.

    Racking a 12 gauge or AR will make a loud, recognizable sound. If i'm using these weapons for self defense, I'm certain that I'm not trying to be discreet anymore.

    I do NOT trust my glock not being chambered. Besides, have you ever tried to chamber a round in a semi auto? of course you have. Its not quiet if you do it like you're supposed to, and its not practical or trustworthy if you ride the slide forward to be quiet about it. I'd rather be confident, discreet, and tactical than anything else with my side arm.
     
  15. Feb 1, 2014 at 6:26 AM
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    In addition to that first "reliable" round, if there IS minor fouling or gunk in the action, the recoil could very well clear it.

    A pump gun will almost ALWAYS chamber a round, since it has your muscle power doing it, and not recoil or gas, which might not be sufficient if there is any resistance. I'm presuming that your Mossberg is one of the ubiquitous (and completely satisfactory) 500 series guns.

    The AR, on the other hand, relies on its action spring to return the bolt carrier assembly to battery (although a good shove on the Forward Bolt Assist will usually get troublesome feeds corrected). Not as much a sure thing as the pump shotgun.

    As for cycling ("racking") the slide; yes it is a distinctive (and frightening) sound, but it also could give away any tactical advantage you may have. Surprise, concealment, and stealth are all force multipliers.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2014 at 5:38 PM
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    I couldn't agree more. My military training, civilian training, knowledge of the handguns I carry on a daily basis, and continual research/study of the concealed carry lifestyle all support the arguments made in this post.
     
  17. Feb 1, 2014 at 7:46 PM
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    Just wanna know... Speaking of carrying... Is there a poll/ pros and cons thread on carry ammo and defensive ammo? There are so many options now and I'm going to be lost in the sauce when I start carrying my 9... The BS thread changes topic too much and I want to know what everyone else knows, because apparently y'all carry as well.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM
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    Not sure on your question. Are you asking if there are pros / cons to using defensive branded ammo over cheap(er) FMJ ammo?

    If so, the quick and dirty...

    Cons: Usually a little bit hotter. If you're sensitive to recoil with your carry gun, it can be a bit snappier with +P ammunition. The projectile is usually a lighter hollow point round as well. That will increase velocity and recoil some. Practice with the ammo you will be carrying. It may not feel any different to you at all. It may make it really un-enjoyable to shoot your gun.

    Pros: Ammo is designed to be used in self-defense situations. It's made to expand and expel more force on the target, and not pass through soft tissue. Some are also designed not to pass through barriers as well, so you don't shoot your neighbor through 3 of your interior walls.

    Non of this information is universal though. You have to compare each cartridge design to that of the other you are considering.
     
  19. Feb 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM
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    Carry whatever you chose, and loaded w/whatever you can find.
    Pray you never need to use the tool.
    If by slim chance you need to use such a tool, may your aim be true and the state on your side.
     
  20. Feb 1, 2014 at 8:56 PM
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    No, I meant just which defensive loads people carry every day. I only carried FMJ while deployed due to the Geneva convention, but that doesn't apply stateside. I just wanna know peoples experiences with different companies and stats. I like to get a LEO's opinion too...
     

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