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Carry with a chambered round???

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by cgs2k2, Feb 22, 2013.

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do you keep a round chambered when you carry?

  1. Yes - keep one chambered

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  2. No - i don't (post your reasoning)

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  1. Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM
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  5. Jul 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM
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    US Military Police.

    Non-uniformed LAPD officers (such as detectives) not actively involved in an entry or apprehension.

    Here is an interesting article on the subject:

    http://thinkinggunfighter.blogspot.com/2010/09/myths-of-israeli-method-of-carry-or-why.html

    It's the way I was trained. I practice charging the weapon as I draw each and every time I am at the range so that it is second nature to me and works even with an adrenaline rush.

    As for force on force: If someone is too close for me to rack the slide he will give me adequate time and space after he gets slammed between the eyes with the barrel. I invite anyone to try this with me. We will, of course, go through the drill with unloaded weapons. Your medical expense will be your responsibility.

    I respect the decision any person makes on this issue without deriding him or treating him as an idiot. That's called respect for others. Maybe some of you should try it.

    YMMV
     
  6. Jul 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM
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    Irony is justifying poor technique, brought about by a lack of training and competency, with training and technique. If you applied this much effort to trigger discipline during the draw you could actually trust yourself and these officers with loaded weapons.

    Your list doesn't surprise me though.
     
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    To each their own I guess. For me it's just too hard to understand not to have one in the chamber, but that's just from me being a Marine Rifleman and being in down and dirty. I feel more comfortable that way...

    but like I said to each their own.
     
  8. Jul 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM
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    Why aren't Marines allowed to carry a round in the chamber in Afghanistan?
     
  9. Jul 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM
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    I shoot approximately 200 (pistol) rounds per week, each and every week, and have for many years. I train with local law enforcement on a regular basis and have been paid to be on the opposition force against National Guard troops in Florida training environments because of my skills in the woods and with weapons. We have the longest outdoor range (1,200 yards) in South Florida at the local gun club and I shoot against many of the best in the area.

    Just because I do not agree with you does not mean I am not trained or have any experience. It just means I do not agree with you.
     
  10. Jul 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM
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    Marines do carry a round in the chamber when you're out on a mission or standing post. You don't just walk around condition one all the time. Contrary to popular belief, you're not in constant danger in Afghanistan.
     
  11. Jul 24, 2014 at 5:51 PM
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    ..Well, if you were to conceal a weapon unloaded.. That'd kinda be like carrying a squirt gun around lol.
    Yes, for sure pack a clip!
     
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    It is more dangerous to load and clear a pistol daily than it is to leave it loaded and in the holster.

    SOPs are quite often based on the lowest common denominator, working with very little and poor training, and managed by desk jockies who are ignorant of the subject that they write regulations for.
     
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    Not correct.

    US Army MP's carry with a round in the pipe.
     
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    I'm quite aware of how it works in reality. Tell it to those who don't.

    <--- See. I r Marine.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2014 at 7:38 PM
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    It's hard to make a generalization of what a branch of the military is going to do, and I suspect the civilian pd is similar

    Each unit is going to have a different procedure based on the mission, location and threat level
     
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    Sorry if you misunderstood I was saying for me I like to hav one in the chamber bc that's what I'm use to from my time in the marines
     
  17. Jul 24, 2014 at 8:42 PM
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    As long as you follow all weapons safety rules and know what condition your weapon is in and you know how to properly clear it. Then carrying one loaded in the chamber shouldn't be a problem. For those that say it is then train more and become more confident in your skills and abilities everytike I've seen a weapon go off on a ND. It's been bc of lack of focus and proper clearing procedures or a violation of safety rules.

    But this is America an everyone is entitled to their opinions so I'm not hating. This is an interesting thread and I respect everyone's views.

    Now let's all just get along and mod some tacomas
     
  18. Jul 24, 2014 at 11:53 PM
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    :rolleyes:

    If you are close enough to put your barrel to my forehead, you are close enough for me to put hands on you. If you'd like to come try it sometime, you are more than welcome. Similarly, I take no responsibility for your hospital bills and would ask you sign a waiver in advance.
     
  19. Jul 25, 2014 at 12:11 AM
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    I'm not sure where you got your source about LAPD detective carrying without a round in the chamber, but you might want to recheck that.


    My conceal carry is a 9mm revolver. So It's always ready to go.
     
  20. Jul 25, 2014 at 12:16 AM
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    For the ones who think they can draw and rack a slide quick enough.

    You would need at least 21 feet if someone wasn't charging you. Where I'm from most confrontation usually happens at a distance less than that.

    Also if I ever had to hold someone at gun point, I'd keep a safe distance. Someone with a knowledge in martial arts can disarm you within a range of 3-5 feet. I'll never let anyone get close enough where my muzzle would touch their head.
     
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