Carry with a chambered round???

i look at it this way, i carry chambered with my pf9 (no safety)

i would rather risk accidently shoot myself in the leg/foot whatever it is trying to pull my gun out rather then not have enough time to pull the slide back in a predicament and risk dying.

 

I carry chambered ( I carry a pf9 and also a p11 depending on the day) I always have one in the chamber. My reasoning for this is like others stated, You may or may not have time to rack the gun depending on the situation at hand.

BUT on the other hand, my carry guns are double action triggers. Meaning the hammer is not constantly in the cocked position awaiting a light tap of the trigger. On a double action (as many of you know) the hammer is pulled back and fired off with the trigger. So my guns have a heavy pull...i'd guesstimate 8lbs or so. Where some guns are single action and may have extremely light pulls, like 1-2 lbs. These guns are alot more risky to carry, if you fumble or hang up while drawing you COULD potentially fire off.

So I guess its all about personal preference and how confident you are with your safety skills. And also what type of carry you are doing (IWB, pocket carry, ankle, etc..)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=posfSTQSBqU

Perhaps not the slickest or best video of the drill on the net, but I selected this one because it shows a shooter with less than professional level training.

Also keep in mind that this, and any other video of the drill... it's a drill.
The person with the gun is EXPECTING the attack.
20ft? 30ft?
Real life is not going to be an armed perp at 30ft and you have a "shootout"... you're going to pray that you are able to identify the perp as a threat before he gets within 20ft.

How many times in your life have complete strangers been within 10ft of you?
If I were planning to rob someone, I wouldn't be screaming at them waving a blade at 30ft... I'd "cozy up" like I'm asking for directions or something.

 

good post rich! I was think of this when i was reading jeff’s post.

 

An unloaded gun is just an expensive paper weight.

 

... ^^^ ... My thoughts too ... (also depending on the safeties on the gun) ...
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I like all the guys who are carrying in a level 3 holster on their hip all day talking about how they carry with one in the chamber. No shit. It's when you carry a Glock with no safety in a leather IWB holster carried appendix style pointed at your femoral artery all day that you think twice about it, lol.

 

I never understood why not- An always chambered .45 by my side keeps me happy!

 

Then you need:

• A better holster
• More Training
• Perhaps a different firearm you are more comfortable with

I would highly suggest ditching the leather.

http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/f...her-holsters-can-cause-accidental-discharges/

 

1 in the pipe 16 in the mag.

 

I would have no problem carrying a Glock with one in the chamber. if you have the right holster it should not matter at all.

Heck I have carried a glock loaded in a Fobus i think it is a GL2 OWB holster on a buddy's property. had full mag and one in the chamber did think twice about it.

 

^^^this.....Im a cop in the airforce and we dont have nearly as much cool training as civ PD but we do however train to have our M9s loaded and we even keep the safety off. This is because in a real world scenario when your blood gets pumping and adrenalin starts flowing its very hard to remember to do even simple things like fliping the saftey from safe to fire before pulling the trigger. You would be surprised at how many of our trained officers (including myself) will be at the range doing quick reaction drills and occasionally draw thier weapon to fire and forget to flip the safety. So the way I see it, for me personally haveing been to the range multiple times with my on and off duty carry I keep one in the chamber because I know that even with the training I've had that if I still to this day after five years still occasionally have that split second screw up and forget to flip the saftey lever theres no way in a real world situation that if I needed to use my weapon I would remember to rack a round before pulling the trigger. For those who have kids and are concerned (in my case my little brother and sisters when there over) teach them the seriousness of a firearm and make sure they understand the danger of them. If their old enough take em to the range, teach em how to handle a firearm theyll love it and its hands on experience vs all the garbage on TV shows and movies. Also be aware of your surroundings If you have kids or know that there will be kids around where ever your going be sure to secure your weapon in a safe place where they will not be able to tamper or play with it. In a locker is most deff the best place for a weapon to be stored but if you dont have one you can put it up high out of reach. Ultimatly the decision is yours weather to carry loaded or not, but I highly recommend all my tacomaworld borthers to take a class or two and spend lots of time at the range to get comfortable with your new or older firearm. Train for different scenarios and try different things and see what works best for you.

 

Chambered...

What's the saying? Train the way you fight, fight the way you train?

If you are not comfortable enough with your weapon to carry one in the chamber, chances are you probably haven't trained enough with it and shouldn't be carrying it. Now, if its in the car, or off body, I can understand, you aren't planning for a face to face confrontation...

Practice your draw and dry fire at home in the mirror with an UNLOADED WEAPON. Practice one handed; practice weak handed; practice in different attire depending on the season; just practice!!!

Most attacks occur within 21 feet. Between your reaction time and your muscle memory, you may have to fight on the ground. Threats are not going to always make themselves known from a distance and the thought that a sight picture must be acquired, is fine and dandy if the attacker is standing away from you, but what if its a guy right in front of you with a knife, and you have both hands in the air? How do you think you're gonna draw, remember to chamber a round, chamber a round, acquire a sight picture, and fire in what is sure to be the most stressful situation that most of you will ever experience before he either notices and stabs you or takes/fights your unchambered gun away from you. This is the reason people that are anti-gun say that you're more likely to be shot with your own gun in an attack.

Wanna see how hard it would be to chamber that round? Go to walmart and get one of those shitty airsoft guns that you have to rack to shoot. Find your biggest friend. Have him punch you in the stoumach so that it actually hurts, and makes you queezy. Then see if you can draw, rack, and shoot him in the chest before he takes that AirSoft gun away from you and kicks your ass...

Point is if you're carrying a firearm, you need to expect the very worst, and hope for the best. Expect to be on the ground. Expect to be injured. Expect others to be injured. Expect no one to help. Expect to want to "take a break". Have a plan B, cause plan A will fail.

/rant

 

Glock 17?

 

Rooster Cogburn said "the damn thing don't work less its loaded." I tend to agree.

 

I carry a Glock 17 on my hip in an IWB level 1 and a 19 on my ankle with a thumb break level 2. Not a problem...

I also carry a glock in a OWB level 3 at work...

Sounds to me like you need to train more and become more comfortable with your carry setup, or change it so that you are comfortable.

 

Chambered.

I've taken numerous courses with firearms. One of my favorite ones is where you are on the ground and the badguy is on top of you. You have to fend off the attack and draw and fire. I couldn't imagine adding tring to charge the gun to the situation.

But to each their own.

 

This is the most important piece of advice! Train, train, train. And remember 'Only perfect practice makes perfect.'

 

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