Carry with a chambered round???

I've carried my Glock 23 every day for about 8 years, and never had a problem with shooting myself. I carry OWB in a level 2 serpa, and IWB in both kydex and leather. A holstered gun isn't going to go off by itself, so keep your booger hook off the bang switch and you'll be fine.

 

Yeah, that's what everyone is saying. I'm very comfortable with my setup, thanks. It's funny how everyone wants to defend their way of doing things to people who are in no way related to, or familiar with, their situation.

I must need more training...in caving to popular opinion. I appreciate your diagnosis, doctor.

 

unchambered...Just another safety layer for me..BUT I go to the range and practice pulling it from the holster, racking it and shooting a clip. Practice it until it becomes one fast fluid motion..

 

Is it a high kapacity assault klip?

 

whats the point if its not chambered? thats on more step that could cost you your life in a bad situation.

 

This! Plus in a high stress situation, you loose fine motor skills. Needing that extra step to pull back the slide can flat out kill you if you have so much stuff going on that you simply either forget that step or loose the motor skill of doing it because your life is in danger.

 

I don't....because i don't carry.....

when I start carrying I will have a round in the chamber and in the case of carrying single action autos, it will be locked, cocked, and ready. otherwise, the hammer will be down on double action. my safety is me, especially if I'm carrying something that does have a safety (revolver and a few others, sig to name one IIRC)

only time that a non chambered round makes any sense to me is if it is a revolver without a round under the hammer, as the cylinder will still spin to the round when you pull the trigger (assuming double action)

 

The ONLY IWB that I will use has a solid Kydex form... either Crossbreed Supertuck or similar.
Appendix style? I like the option of cross-draw, but prefer a shoulder holster for that.

 

i have a bravo concealment iwb holster i like it

 

Still a non-issue for modern DA revolvers.

While most either have no manual safety, or they have a "key" type safety, most also have an automatic "transfer bar" safety.
The down-hammer can not contact the firing pin. You can bash the hammer with a sledge hammer and it won't discharge.
The transfer bar is attached to the trigger. As you pull the trigger, the hammer comes back and the transfer bar comes up.
When the trigger breaks, the transfer bar remains up until the trigger is released.
To safely "de-cock" a modern DA revolver with a transfer bar, simply hold the hammer down with your thumb (BETWEEN the hammer and firing pin), pull the trigger to release the hammer, then release the trigger. The transfer bar will drop, and the hammer can then be manually lowered safely without the potential to strike the firing pin.


Remember... a concealable revolver is only going to hold 5, maybe 6 shots.
Don't go into battle one precious bullet down.
Odds are that of 6 shots, only 1 is going to hit the bogey.

 

I know it is a non issue, I have a new model black hawk (single action) and it is the same way, but you still get the paranoid people or those that carry an older revolver.

 

Living in the great state of MD it's highly unlikely I'll ever be able to get a CCW here, but if that day should ever come, I'd start without one in the chamber.

Id like to get a G27 if the prices ever come down to a reasonable level again. One shop had a gen4 for $800, which is just a tad on the high side. Along with AR-15s for over 2k, but I'll stay on subject here...

For a g27, id start without one in the chamber, and once im 100% completely confindent with the handgun, I may switch to carry w/ one in the chamber. Maybe invest in a glock trigger safty at that time, which seem to get pretty good reviews.

 

A tad high? That's $300 more than I paid for my G26

 

Do you train to keep your finger off the trigger? If so, an AD or ND because of a fixable training issue should be non-existent.

I carry an M&P for work (level 3) and concealed (friction retention). I have no fears about putting a round in my thigh as I train that my finger does not touch that trigger until I am ready to shoot. Trust me, I've drawn this gun over a thousand times.

 

Hip level 3, hip friction retention, serpa, or leather, I don't think twice about carrying any gun with a round chambered. And see above post for what I carry on and off duty.

 

No need to be sarcastic...you are the one defending yourself, not I.

In my eyes, and im sure others will agree, if you don't feel comfortable enough to CCW or otherwise carry a firearm in condition 1 (cocked, locked, and ready to rock), you simply have not trained enough. Going to a 4 hour basic firearms safety class is not firearms training, it's safety training. They teach you how to not break shit. I dont know your background, nor do I honestly care as long as you don't hurt yourself or unintentionally hurt someone else. If you CCW, take an advanced CCW class where you fire from the ground, and under stress. You can't sit back and be the guy with 10 guns that never see a day of actual training and expect to become super elite tactical sniper alpha awesome go to guy.

Do what you want...if that's how you want to carry, and its what makes you comfortable, go for it...just make sure you're training that way and prepare for the worst. You have to add that step of loading and make sure it's muscle memory, and a part of your draw every time.

Hopefully, and I genuinely mean this, you never have to find out what would have worked better either way.

Diagnosis by:
AWorthyOpponent PhD.

 

At the range you need to practice getting knocked down on your weak side, drawing, racking and shooting your pistol with one hand.

Or practice getting pined up against a wall where you'd have to draw and shoot from retention.


Hell, as someone that carries with one in the chamber, I think of many situations where my loaded gun may not be effective. I have never thought to give myself a further disadvantage.


For anyone that carries an unloaded gun, have you ever looked at your pistol at the end of the day and found that the trigger had been pulled inadvertently sometime in the course of the day?

 

Wow thanks for all the responses! I was out of town this weekend and just went back and read everything. I appreciate all the opinions and experience.

 

I carry a CW45 and when I first started carrying I didn't load the chamber but started thinking about carrying it loaded and then I saw store camera footage where a clerk got shot and killed when he pulled a semi auto from under the counter and was racking the slide and didn't get it loaded and got shot. I now carry it loaded chamber and all.

Steve E...........

 

If you cant safely carry and loaded gun, you cant safely carry a gun IMO

Remember the 21 foot rule; even for an experienced gun owner, a man with a knife can close 21 feet before you can put a bullet in him. Now, factor in loading/racking a round... You can potentially find yourself in one shitty situation.