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Ceramic vs stainless vs titanium headers

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by makikid808, Oct 6, 2011.

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  1. Oct 23, 2011 at 10:26 AM
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    you pay for quality though. An LCE header is $480...an pacesetter is like $250. Big difference in quality.
     
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  2. Oct 23, 2011 at 10:30 AM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    Keeps the heat in the headers, so it'll travel faster throughout the exhaust.

    It doesn't "absorb" or "leak" out and linger...it just a straight shot out.

    Header wrap is good for anything when the header is near your cooling system...more heat = less cold air flowing through and boiling antifreeze isn't condensing as fast which in return causes higher IT's.

    Everyone knows higher IT's on a motor gives a slight slight loss of performance.


    every notice how your truck or car runs better on cold nights?(around like 50-55 degrees outside).
     
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  3. Oct 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    For $480 you can buy just an exhaust flange and have a shop make you a custom setup.

    Headers are a waste of money lol..bolt on's are so 2001.

    Forced induction is where it's at these days. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Oct 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM
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    I'm looking into the DT headers... But one of the shops that I was talking to quoted me $920 for em(this includes shipping to HI since we live so close to the mainland). I asked him if it's just the headers or is it a full CAT4ward system and he tell me idk. I asked him if it's ceramic or stainless again he says idk. I told him idk if I comming back jeez
     
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  5. Oct 23, 2011 at 10:36 AM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    :burnrubber:
     
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  6. Oct 23, 2011 at 4:14 PM
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    :p

    I got my header because my stock manifold was cracked (in several places). So I just bought a header. I agree that on a four banger a header won't get you much.
     
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  7. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:00 PM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    Stock header with free flowing exhaust will get you more.
    Not really on these newer motors though...but say a 22R Yota..or a L18 Datsun..then yes..exhaust and some tweaking of carb...will yield bigger power gains then exhaust on these new motors.

    Hell a 34/36 will make a 22r a rocketship...dual sidedrafts will make it a really fast rocketship.

    but in your case, a header is justifiable.
     
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  8. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:07 PM
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    a free flowing exhaust on a new 4cyl will make you lose bottom end.
     
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  9. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:32 PM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    backpressure is such a myth, to some extent you need some..but only a tad.


    a free flowing exhaust on a 4cyl will run better but you'll lose power all the way around because those motors were built tight and never designed to be upgraded..so they use piping to specs of what the motor was always meant to be ran at.

    but yeah your right..but to an extent branden
     
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  10. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:42 PM
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    i'm completely right and you are just catching up ;p
     
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    you definitely lose a lot of power w/ a free flowing exhaust. when I put on my headers I drove around the block w/ open headers just for shits and giggles and it was slow as FAWK...
     
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  12. Oct 23, 2011 at 5:53 PM
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    It's an 89 Toyota Pickup. I got some stuff done to it.. FJ axles going under it soon.
    your never right douchemonkey.
    go back to the zoo.

    did you soa the heep yet?
    NOPE!
    LOSER.


    :rolleyes:
     
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    it's being used to prototype doors and bumpers homo ;p
     
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  14. Oct 23, 2011 at 6:19 PM
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    ya right!!!!!


    BULLSHIET!!!!!!
     
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  16. Oct 23, 2011 at 9:42 PM
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    They are all stainless, ceramic and titanium are the coatings to contain the heat like a heat shield does. I think it is implied that the titanium coating is the best. You could just get regular stainless and get header wrap.
     
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    :facepalm: I give up...
     
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  18. Oct 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM
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    hahahahaha no comment:duel:
     
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    I'm sure you read what I wrote, that's a good starting point.

    I kinda know what I'm talking about. I've been a metal fabricator for a few years. So I was making headers, exhausts, tube frames etc... until I closed down and moved about a week ago. I'm not new to this and I didn't just google everything 5 minutes ago
     
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    Ok so with ur experiance if I was to. Go with the stainless compared to the ceramic whats the differences that I would be looking at. Also doesn't the stainless get hotter making the whole front hot and making my intake take in hotter air
     
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