Charlotte, NC area: hate on OP, houses, boats & hoes

More taxes! that's the answer!

 

The Land of Fruits and Nuts

 

And don't get me started on the people! lol

 

It takes more resources and causes more pollution to make a battery powered car than the car itself would have produced over it's lifetime being gas powered, right? That's what I've always heard...

 

Depends on the process but that is generally no longer true

And I say that as someone who prefers gas but will happily run a plug in hybrid so I can charge at the house but then have gas for when remote

 

Correct.

 

Meant to add the asterisk caveat that it depends where they are produced (what standards they follow)

 

With my long commute, I'd happily have a Tesla, but no way in hell I'd pay six figures for one. Plus I've heard they are junk from a QC standpoint.

 

aren’t most of the lithium batteries produced in China? That’s where a lot of the pollution comes from, from my understanding.

 

They are - that is the problem. The research I’ve seen (cited) shows that following American or European manufacturing standards would reduce it by 60%

my buddy is a solar sales guy and we got into a debate about it and definitely learned more off of the cited studies he had sent me

to your point though - its what is possible vs what is going to happen. They will still manufacture the batteries in China most likely so what does that solve

 

Low pollution or low cost, pick one. You can't have both. As more and larger batteries are produced we are going to see a huge increase in mining around the world, most of it in underdeveloped places that we should be protecting. Takes a lot of Lithium and other rare earth metals to make those things unfortunately.

 

Agreed completely. People keep talking about flow batteries, thermal batteries, and gravity-based systems but I will believe that they can replace lithium when I see it.

I don’t know enough about the tech to understand their future capabilities

 

Fish are starting to move!

 

All of those systems are really cool, but they just simply can't store the amount of energy needed to be useful. It's just physics. Chemical is really the only way to go, just need the tech to get better.

 

Let's just get some scaled down nuclear reactors, energy for dayssss!!!!!

 

Not for nothing, but I'm pretty sure Doc Brown had this problem solved back in the '80s

 

We liked them for industrial use because they were like 75% less maintenance and modern diesel engines are an expensive unreliable PITA in anything but a road going truck or earth moving equipment.

House listed today and have 3 showings already in 1hr, DAMN!!

 

The big GenSets that we use for back up power are extremely reliable, good enough for hospitals anyway haha. As are most trains, which are I think are diesel-electric now. Which modern diesels are unreliable?

 

That beard it legit

 

if you ask my brother in-law, he'll tell you all of them, that's why he buys a brand new 1 ton every year. Believe he paid close to $90k for this last GMC Denali (retail is like $65k) after rolling in the negative equity from last years F350 ...don't know how he keeps getting financed but whatever, not my problem. Guess that's why he works 3 jobs, 7 days a week