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Check your drum brakes!!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Lentsnh, Dec 30, 2009.

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  1. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:00 PM
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    what? :pccoffee:
     
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    ......................:crazy::facepalm:
     
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  3. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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    ugh nevermind.... :(
     
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  4. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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    hahaha this is fun....making lents confused is fun!
     
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  5. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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    ....:infantry:
     
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  6. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:26 PM
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    Yes.....Because where you apply stopping force doesn't matter- The weight of the truck (which causes the nosedive) will still be going forward and causing that nosedive.
     
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  7. Dec 31, 2009 at 7:50 PM
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    But from what I understand EBD helps compensate for the distribution of weight while braking.
     
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    The weight vector straight DOWN thru the wheels that affects lockups/sliding and the weight vector FORWARD that is the inertial reaction are decomposed parts of the same force- but they don't apply to each other.
     
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  9. Dec 31, 2009 at 8:17 PM
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  10. Dec 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM
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    Wikipedia is not a reliable source and if you read above the submission is contested.

    All I can say is I know what I feel. In two latest generation vehicles that I have owned there is a noticeable difference during hard braking on how the vehicle feels as far as nose dive is concerned. I have no scientific proof only that the brownies I eat before I drive make me feel funky.
     
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  11. Jan 1, 2010 at 7:17 AM
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    True, Wikipedia entries are often written by lunatics. I will find another.

    You, umm, got anymore of those brownies?:D
     
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  12. Jan 1, 2010 at 7:22 AM
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  13. Jan 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM
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    The bottom line, is that the brakes control 1 aspect of a vehicle. Only 1. They stop the wheels from turning. They play NO role in the geometry of the vehicles suspension. That being said, Manufacturs design the vehicles to handle a certain way. Different brake aplication can affect that. When turning, and the vehicle starts to understeer, the left rear brake can be applied to aid in correcting this. Etc. When in a straight line, and the brakes are applied, and the vehicle Dives in the front, the brakes have NO means of pushing the truck UP. Thats the job of the suspension. Nothing else. Shocks can be valved accordingly, to aid in reducing the Dive when braking. Variable rate springs can be used, Air shocks, magnetic dampening controls, etc. However, an EBD set up, which most every car has now days, has nothing to do with weather or not the vehicle dives a certain amount. When used in conjuction with a stability control program, they WILL help in keeping a vehicle under control, in a potential skid condition, but thats about as far as it goes. Saying that Your truck may Dive less that other vehicles you have owned, is not indicative of the EBD system controling the Dive under brakeing, but rather the different suspension set ups on the vehicles. An example.....My Old Honda Intercepter had an Anti Dive system on it. When the brakes were applied, the suspension was designed (advertised) to control the amount of dive of the front end. My last 3 sport bikes had no such features, but yet, a more advanced (evolved) suspension, and exibited less dive than the Honda..
     
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  14. Jan 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM
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    The article is "contested" because the writer said that it worked across axles- A minor detail.
    Immediately dismissing Wiki articles because they are Wiki articles is a lame technique...Are they the only and definitive source for everything...NO...but they pretty regularly have damn good info.

    As far as feel- That's not a reliable source either. How many folks have reported a HUGE gain in power after putting in parts like a Throttle Body Spacer or a drop in filter that gives you 15 HP. Not to mention your feel is affected by things like tire wear, inflation, fluid condition, temps, weather and road conditions.
     
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  17. Jan 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM
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    There should be 5mm of material left on the shoe? I am at 45000 miles and cleaned and adjusted my drum brakes and there was only about 3-4mm of material. Does this mean they should be replaced? Seems like they got some time left
     
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  18. Jan 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM
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    It can depend on how much you haul/tow as well, but unless you're running around heavily loaded all the time, I agree with the other posters that your fronts should wear a lot faster than the rears.

    Haven't even hit the first oil change on my new taco, but I had a 1st gen from 1997-2004, and I'm pretty sure I sold that truck w/ about 100k miles and factory rear shoes while I replaced the front pads 2 or 3 times. I very rarely hauled much and never towed with that truck, but I'm pretty sure I remember being told that the rears were over 50% reamaining when I had the front pads replaced for the 2nd time (they did say that the rear shoes were some sort of asbestos compound which nobody made disc pads out of, and that's probably no longer the case on the 2nd gens).
     
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    Using the parking brake also helps to protect the transmission if you have an automatic (or park a manual in 1st gear to prevent rolling). Just put on the parking brake with the car in neutral before putting it into "P", this'll help protect the gears from getting stressed if the car gets bumped while it's parked, and brake shoes are much cheaper to replace than the gearbox.
     
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    So I found out that Tacomas brake shoes are usually pretty thin to start out with, and the way you can tell if the brake shoes need to be replaced is by checking the lettering on the side of the shoe. If you can clean the dust off and still set part of the serial # than they are still good.
     
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