Chux's 2013 Beach Buggy Build

in at LEER dealer right now and they guy just told me that putting a RTT on top on my prinsu on the shell is a bad idea and I’m arguing with him I see it done all the time. Then he proceeds to try and sell me a different version of the shell.

Edit: he’s claiming no more than 200lbs I assume in general. static or dynamic.

 

Hello hater! (Leer dealer)

 

Exactly the person I showed him! You and chux are the reason I bought a 100R

 

Not saying it is the case this time, but "I see it done all the time" is a terrible reason/statement. A lot of people do a lot of stupid stuff because they see others do it and don't know better.

See: Ebay drop in LED bulbs

 

Makes me feel a little more easy about buying a RTT. How long you been running that? And do you have any internal support cage?

 

if you’re gonna find out if something works of not you gotta try it out

 

I’m sure jay will chime in, but I know he cracked his fiberglass cap.

 

I have had the shell for going on 4 years and the tent run there for about 3 (RTT GB in 2016 IIRC)

I do not have a cage. I have been looking into one, but there are other things going on ATM (just moved etc).

I will share with you wisdom from Zach (Prinsu creator) that he shared many moons ago about the LEER 100R:

"Leer 100r, roof top tent, and Prinsu rack. It is the best canopy I can find which can handle the weight of the RTT plus two people.

You will love the canopy. I got the 100R after looking at the RCC. The price seems extremely good depending on your options. My 100R with vented windoors on both sides, drop down slider in the front, carpeted headliner, and thule tracks was $2100 IIRC. The RCC was closer to $2600 so either you have less options or you are getting a killer deal.

Lots of people worry about the weight of a tent on the canopy but I am yet to see someone who has broken the canopy from too much weight on the roof. I have had two shells now both non-reinforced models and never had an issue with either carrying the tent. Expedition overland has driven more miles than anyone I know with a tent on their shell across north america with no problems. Go for it!
I think it was about $200-300 more when I ordered mine. I originally was going to do the 100RCC but when I went to the dealer he said the only reason the RCC is considered reinforced more is due to the sides. The roof structure between the two is the same but the sides on the RCC are reinforced more because usually people install the side access tool boxes which need reinforcement to support the weight they carry.

He said if I was concerned about weight on the roof then either will work. Obviously the RCC will be a little stronger all around because of the reinforced sides, but if the weight of the tent were to crack the roof it wouldn't matter if the shell were an RCC or R.

I haven't confirmed this with Leer so it could be something mostly made up. It sounded pretty logical to me though and from what I have seen between shells it makes sense. I think the many dealers and manufacturers put a very conservative rating on these caps and although they aren't indestructible, they can take a lot more than they are used for, especially with a good rack that spreads out the load to multiple points rather than just the single points of the thule/yakima load bars.

Having just picked up a new shell myself I got the low down on current practices for LEER and Snugtop. Can't speak for ARE. Snugtop has been doing a reinforced honey comb top on all thier models for some time. This helps the roof support more weight. LEER has started doing this on most models as well. My base model 100R that I just got has the thicker roof. LEER and Snutop both have a contractor model that has reinforced sides. The LEER 100rcc (upgrade from mine) and the Snugpro. Both of these have reinforcement in the sides but it isn't really aimed at making the load capacity on these shells more. It actually is reinforced to support the weight of the side tool boxes that often are added to these shells.

Yes that reinforcement helps with the total strength of the shell as a unit but not enough to justify a big jump in weight capacity that the roof can hold. Especially if the roof rack is mounted closer to the center of the shell vs out on the edges. The guy told me that he wouldn't hesitate to put 400lbs on any of the shells that they sell. They base the rating of the shell on the rating of the rack so you are almost always told a 150lb rating because that's what THULE and Yakima rate their crossbars for and as most people know that is a very conservative estimate.

Get a good rack that disperses the weight evenly. Put your tent up there and enjoy it. As long as you don't get in the tent start jumping up and down you will be fine. Like mentioned before, sleep with your torso over the cantilevered part of the tent so less weight is on the other end.

I have had a snugtop XV and now have a Leer 100R. They both held the tent just fine. I like the Leer better though cause I bought it new and was able to order windoors. If you are looking at a shell, even though windoors cost more, look at them seriously. Every shell I have owned without them it has been a major downfall."

 

great input brother i really appriciate this help!

 

I’m sure it’s in here somewhere, but I just looked through 40+ pages and didn’t see it.

Did you have any issues running 255/80r17 on the SCS wheels? Considering making that my next tire and have the same wheels. Seems to be mixed reviews.

 

Is @Chux OK?

 

Probably just busy. I know he replaced his water heater yesterday.

 

Good. I mean not "good" that he had to change the water heater, but good that he's probably ok.

 

Just crawlin at the mall.

 

LOL. Yeah, getting stuff for a baby is no joke!


I was trying to get some soft shackles from him, but I'm not sure if he is into that stuff anymore

 

I’m alive

Returning pm now

 

Got lost heading to the mall, ended up on a jeep trail..

 

Truck looks great man!

 

Hey Cory! How you been?

 

Pretty good man, living life. Getting married in November and just bought a house with my fiance 2 months ago so life has been crazy lately. How about yourself? Been a while.