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Clutch replacement

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by BrianPK, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. Oct 4, 2008 at 2:21 PM
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    BrianPK

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    Alright, so i'm sure i'm not the first to ask... but a forum search came up with nothing pertinent.

    my clutch is going out. it slips, and the pedal sometimes needs to be pulled back after shifting, starting etc.

    i called around, even priced it at my work when i was there... all around 700 bucks. Ouch.

    so, of course, being the at-home wanna be mechanic i am, i'm wondering if i can save myself the wallet ache by doing it myself...

    it's a 4x4, and i have the FSM... I'm fairly handy, But i've never done a clutch before.


    any tips, tricks, or special information i should have before i start dropping my tranny? the FSM doesn't outline the whole job in one article, so i figured i'd tap into the collective knowledge that is.. TW! :D

    Tools?
    Parts?
    Timeframe?

    thanks!

    tranny is the r150f i believe. i have the 3.4l v6 and the trd package. also, i have a 3in body lift... nice for getting to those top bolts, right?
     
  2. Oct 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM
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    You have checked the hydraulic side of the clutch no leaks seems strange you need to pull the pedal back sounds hydraulic how many miles?
     
  3. Oct 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
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    tacomaman06

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    getting there....

    hey man...send a pm to 350tacozilla.........this guy knows his stuff when it comes to transmissions.:)
     
  4. Oct 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
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    just hit 108... hydrolics are good... plenty of fluid, no leaks..
     
  5. Oct 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM
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    I agree with BeefTaco, sounds to me like a bad slave or master since you're saying that you have to pull the pedel back out.
     
  7. Oct 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM
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    Isn't there a return spring on the pedal housing?
    If there is then the hydraulic fluid would have nothing to do with returning the pedal.
    Slipping clutch would be time for a replacement.

    You will need 4 jack stands, jack, transmission jack for tranny ( rental) clutch alignment tool all the hand tools neded to remove all the bolts, drive shafts...etc
    It's time consuming but not that hard.
     
  8. Oct 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM
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    i don't always have to pull the pedal back out. even when i do, it's usually when i've had the pedal to the floor for a while. it's like an inch or two at best.

    yes, there's a pedal return spring. i'm sure though, that some of the return force is hydraulic.

    is there a surefire way to check either the master or the slave?

    it started slipping a few weeks ago... the pedal thing followed shortly after.

    the tranny is getting warm.. like warmer than usual. i assume that's from the friction of the thing slipping.
     
  9. Sep 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM
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    Hey I have done mine twice on my 01 Sr5 trd off road. Pretty easy but a few tips: top bolts to the tranny are kinda a pain but undo all the rest and then remove the cross member support from t case, let the tranny are drop down a little and use a few different lengths of socket extensions and get the top bolts from inside the cab. The get the pilot bearing out pack little wet pieces of paper behind the bearing and use a bolt or socket and hammer it into the middle of the bearing and it will pop out in a few minutes. Aside from that it is pretty easy. Just got done with mine a few minutes ago.
     
  10. May 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM
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    When I drop the transmission do I have to un hook the gear shifter and thes other cables coming from the tranny?
     
  11. May 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM
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    Yes remove gear shifters. They take just a minute to remove.
     
  12. May 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM
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    it should last more than 108,000 miles. my cousins truck 226,000 same clutch and alot of mtn miles
     
  13. May 5, 2014 at 2:47 PM
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    My factory clutch lasted about 120k. Word of advice don't go cheap. I just replaced the clutch because my throwout bearing went out after about 50k miles. I'd go marlin or factory Toyota for replacement. Might want to plan on resurfacing the flywheel. I didn't the first time and had a chatter when I shifted at higher rpms.

    I was able to get the top bolts out first before I did all the other bolts with the transmission still sitting on the cross member. Just need a 1/2" universal joint and a few extensions. The rest is pretty straight forward, unplug all the wiring connections, take shifters out, drive shafts, cross member, starter, dust shield, slave cylinder (not in that order) and pull back. I borrowed the cheap HF tranny jack from someone and it worked fine after I put on an extra ratchet strap. Only other special tool I can think of is another set of hands when you pull and stab it. It's a pretty big chore by yourself.
     
  14. May 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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    Ok thanks I try that.
     
  15. May 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM
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    Do I have to disconnect the hydraulics from the clutch release cylinder, because then i'd get air in the hydraulics and, and, and.but I don't see a way to unhook the cylinder otherwise?
     
  16. May 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM
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    Unbolt the slave cylinder from the transmission along with the brackets that hold the hydraulic lines.
     
  17. May 6, 2014 at 10:53 AM
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    Pack the center with grease and tap a bolt in, rinse and repeat. Every time you tap the bolt the bearing will slide forward a bit. Easy peasy.

    Getting the clutch to align with everything else during assembly took a a few hours though. It was a bigger pain in the ass than it should have been.
     
  18. May 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM
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    My buddy and I did mine at about 125k miles a few years back. Pilot bearing was shot so we did the whole thing. I bought a mid-level brand replacement and it has lasted 60k miles so far without issue. Its all about your driving habits in my opinion.

    The main things I learned is, rent a tranny jack no questions asked. Removing the transmission wasn't bad without on but trying to get it back in was next to impossible especially with the extra weight of the transfer case on 4wd. Second, label your removed nuts and bolts. It makes things much easier when putting it back together. Lastly, take your time putting it back together. We accidentally tore an A/F sensor wire when re-attaching the transmission. That added extra cost to replace.
     
  19. May 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM
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    View the build. Too much to list.
    I did my clutch by myself in a day. I used some extremely tall jack stands and a transmission jack. A swivel for your ratchet is handy as hell. Getting to the bolts on top of the transmission and the flywheel cover are the hardest parts.
     
  20. May 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM
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    I may have to replace mine in the 1999....The first Toyota I had was a 1980 4X4 and I dropped the transmission in it so many times I could take it out and have it back in in less that 2 hours.....No transmission jack, I ran a 4 by 4 thru the doors and lowered it with a come along. Bad transmission rebuild is why I dropped it so many times. I never did get the problem of it popping out of 1st going down hill fixed.

    I replaced the clutch in my 1988 much the same way.

    I might look into getting a transmission jack this time, I'm not as young as I was back then.

    Brian
     
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