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Co-Worker had Home Invasion

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by Hipster, Nov 24, 2010.

  1. Nov 24, 2010 at 3:04 PM
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    well maybe you need to do a little research. I do not believe that all my professors and myself (Criminal Justice major) have gotten this law wrong since we do live in this state.
     
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    ...I was just watching TOP GUN today with call sign Ghostrider..Movie was probably too old for most folks on here.... meaning it makes no sense to fire after you been shot. I don't doubt your knowledge on this. I thought the little smiley would be enough...sorry for confusion.
     
  3. Nov 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM
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  4. Nov 24, 2010 at 6:56 PM
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    You're lucky, here in MA I can only legally defend myself if somebody actually enters my house and makes the first move. If they had a gun and they're standing on my front porch shooting at me I couldn't legally return fire. And this state basically started the revolution, what the hell happened?
     
  5. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:13 PM
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    Its a wonder they couldnt follow the trail or s#$% cuz you know that guy dropped a load.
     
  6. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:23 PM
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    correct answer: butt stroke!
     
  7. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:26 PM
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    i love owning handcuffs...they come with me to investigate things that go bump in the night




    for the rest of you...while owning a firearm will make you FEEL more secure...you still need to take the preventative steps first so that you can hopefully never have to shoot someone

    i'll post up the text to an email i got that should open your eyes to where a lot of burglaries "start"


    THIRTEEN THINGS YOUR BURGLAR WON'T TELL YOU:

    1. Of course I look familiar. I was here just last week cleaning your carpets, painting your shutters, or delivering your new refrigerator.

    2. Hey, thanks for letting me use the bathroom when I was working in your yard last week. While I was in there, I unlatched the back window to make my return a little easier.

    3. Love those flowers. That tells me you have taste.. and taste means there are nice things inside. Those yard toys your kids leave out always make me wonder what type of gaming system they have.

    4. Yes, I really do look for newspapers piled up on the driveway. And I might leave a pizza flyer in your front door to see how long it takes you t o remove it..

    5. If it snows while you're out of town, get a neighbor to create car and foot tracks into the house. Virgin drifts in the driveway are a dead giveaway.

    6. If decorative glass is part of your front entrance, don't let your alarm company install the control pad where I can see if it's set. That makes it too easy.

    7. A good security company alarms the window over the sink. And the windows on the second floor, which often access the master bedroom - and your jewelry. It's not a bad idea to put motion detectors up there too.

    8. It's raining, you're fumbling with your umbrella, and you forget to lock your door - understandable. But understand this: I don't take a day off because of bad weather.

    9. I always knock first. If you answer, I'll ask for directions somewhere or offer to clean your gutters. (Don't take me up on it.)

    10. Do you really think I won't look in your sock drawer? I always check dresser drawers, the bedside table, and the medicine cabinet.

    11. Here's a helpful hint: I almost never go into kids' rooms.

    12. You're right: I won't have enough time to break into that safe where you keep your valuables. But if it's not bolted down, I'll take it with me.

    13 A loud TV or radio can be a better deterrent than the best alarm system. If you're reluctant to leave your TV on while you're out of town, you can buy a $35 device that works on a timer and simulates the flickering glow of a real television. (Find it at http://www.faketv.com/)


    8 MORE THINGS A BURGLAR WON'T TELL YOU:

    1. Sometimes, I carry a clipboard. Sometimes, I dress like a lawn guy and carry a r ake. I do my best to never, ever look like a crook.

    2. The two things I hate most: loud dogs and nosy neighbors.

    3. I'll break a window to get in, even if it makes a little noise. If your neighbor hears one loud sound, he'll stop what he's doing and wait to hear it again. If he doesn't hear it again, he'll just go back to what he was doing. It's human nature.

    4. I'm not complaining, but why would you pay all that money for a fancy alarm system and leave your house without setting it?

    5. I love looking in your windows. I'm looking for signs that you're home, and for flat screen TVs or gaming systems I'd like. I'll drive or walk through your neighborhood at night, before you close the blinds, just to pick my targets.

    6. Avoid announcing your vacation on your Facebook page. It's easier than you think to look up your address.

    7. To you, leaving that window open just a crack during the day is a way to le t in a little fresh air. To me, it's an invitation.

    8. If you don't answer when I knock, I try the door. Occasionally, I hit the jackpot and walk right in.

    Sources: Convicted burglars in North Carolina , Oregon , California , and Kentucky ; security consultant Chris McGoey, who runs http://www.crimedoctor.com Richard T. Wright, a criminology professor at the University of Missouri-St. Louis, who interviewed 105 burglars for his book Burglars on the Job.

    Protection for you and your home:

    If you don't have a gun, here's a more humane way to wreck someone's evil plans for you. (I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.):

    WASP SPRAY
    < BR>A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

    The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

    FROM ANOTHER SOURCE

    On the heels of a break-in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self-defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

    Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School . For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.

    Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

    Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 to 30 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says, "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades. It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray.

    "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out."

    Maybe even save a life.

    Put your car keys beside your bed at night.

    Tell your spouse, your children, your neighbors, your parents, your Dr.'s office, the check-out girl at the market, everyone you run ac ross. Put your car keys beside your bed at night.

    If you hear a noise outside your home or someone trying to get in your house, just press the panic button for your car. The alarm will be set off, and the horn will continue to sound until either you turn it off or the car battery dies. This tip came from a neighborhood watch coordinator Next time you come home for the night and you start to put your keys away, think of this: It's a security alarm system that you probably already have and requires no installation. Test it. It will go off from most everywhere inside your house and will keep honking until your battery runs down or until you reset it with the button on the key fob chain. It works if you park in your driveway or garage. If your car alarm goes off when someone is trying to break into your house, odds are the burglar/rapist won't stick around. After a few seconds all the neighbors will be looking out their windows to see who is out there and sure enough the criminal won't want that. And remember to carry your keys while walking to your car in a parking lot. The alarm can work the same way there. This is something that should really be shared with everyone. Maybe it could save a life or a sexual abuse crime.
     
  8. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:31 PM
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    strangely enough..if anyone one person breaks into anyones home in NM and gets hurt in or on your property they have the right to sue you... Happened to by brothers neighbor.. guy broke in and upon going through the window he tripped and broke his ankle..sued the home owner for 100k..

    So to ensure you cant be sued you gotta blasted them if they get hurt...lol sometimes i think our laws protect the criminals more than the citizens lol
     
  9. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:35 PM
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    i love it!! good idea. plus a glock.
     
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    Love that law! Good ol' CO!
     
  11. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:46 PM
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    tigerfan, the number 8 on the first list caught my interest. is that sarcasm or do burglars really avoid kids rooms? is that all kids or just like rooms with baby stuff in it? that really intrigues me for some reason
     
  12. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM
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    i've never seen a kids room tossed...but...you really never know

    Burglars know that youre less likely to have the big tv, nice laptop or gun collection in the kids room...theyre looking for get in...grab...get out
     
  13. Nov 24, 2010 at 7:54 PM
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    I would think that they probably really do avoid kids rooms if they are professorial burglars. When my parents house got robbed the crooks went straight to the master bedroom opened a few drawers went to the closet and grabbed the safe (wasn't bolted down). The police officer that came said they were probably in the house less than 2 minutes. Didn't even notice the expensive jewelry that was sitting in plain site on the dining room table.
     
  14. Nov 24, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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    Thanks for the great tips Tigerfan. Going to pick up some wasp spray this weekend, I would have never thought of that or the keys.
    I am going to pass that along to my sister & mom too.
    To the OP I am glad your coworker & his family were ok.
     
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    One of those big poles with a noose on the end (like animal control uses) would do the job as he stuck his head through the window. :D

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  16. Nov 24, 2010 at 8:17 PM
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    You don't think its legal in CA to hold an intruder at gunpoint while you call the police?

    CA has a castle law. If that had happened to me I wouldn't have waited for the guy to get all the way in before I killed him
     
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    And to anyone who would have shot the burglar... really? The situation was under control, he didn't appear to have a weapon, and he was complying (by not trying to grab the gun or hurt the homeowner).

    I say bravo, the guy did exactly the right thing. He was ready to shoot, but fortunately he didn't have to. Well done!
     
  18. Nov 24, 2010 at 8:25 PM
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    Yes really.
     
  19. Nov 24, 2010 at 8:30 PM
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    I'm a huge advocate of gun rights. That being said, I'm disgusted by the notion that you get excited at the prospect of getting to kill a non-violent criminal when he hasn't threatened your life or that of your family. Grow up.
     
  20. Nov 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM
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    Im not going to wait for someone to climb through my window to find out what their intentions are and give them the chance to harm me or my family. If you are breaking in my house Im just going to assume they wouldn't stop there.

    If you want to wait to get shot at that is fine with me, that is not what I am going to do.
     

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