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Coil Springs with Shocks vs Coilovers for a Parallel rear 4 link setup?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Pinoiako916, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Feb 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM
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    Pinoiako916

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    Hey y'all!

    I will getting a 15' or 16' Tacoma in the coming year. I am deciding on whether to put coil springs or coilovers for a rear 4 link set up. What do y'all suggest on what type of 4 link I should run? What are the pros and cons of both coil springs and coil overs? Attached below is a similar rear suspension coil spring w/ shocks build that Shaffers Offroad in the Bay Area did on a F250.

    However, for the front suspension, I am just going to put in a Long Travel IFS kit to compensate for the lift I will be getting in the back. I am not into doing the whole front SAS procedure. However, I am planning to put on 33 inch General Grabber tires.

    rear-shocks-installed.jpg
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  2. Feb 11, 2015 at 10:23 AM
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    What is your goal with the truck? Why do you want/need a 4 link rear?
     
  3. Feb 11, 2015 at 10:26 AM
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    all depends on use. The setups above with a stand alone coil and shock are for flex... not high speed.

    A true triangulated 4 link and proper coil overs are going to allow you to do high speed stuff as well.... but will cost more money.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2015 at 10:28 AM
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    i might be mistaken but pretty sure you would need to relocated the gas tank or run a fuel cell with a 4link. check out rock solid toys.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2015 at 11:06 AM
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    @nd4spdbh, chiefmanywrenches- I am looking at an all purpose rig that can be a daily driver, haul items in the bed (thus looking at coil spring w/ shock set up to retain all of the bed space), expedition, and rock crawling as well. This will not be used for high speed, pre-runner type off roading.

    @nucktaco-the f250 runs a parallel 4 link wherein, all of the four links are parallel to the frame. None of the links go inside to where the gas tank is.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2015 at 1:57 PM
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    Stick with leafs then... No point to try and re design the entire rear suspension.
     
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    It seems like you also want to maybe pick up a vehicle that doesn't cost quite so much as a spankin' new Taco. Like maybe one that's considerably older?

    Obviously it is your money and you can do some really wicked cool shit with it, but since you're essentially rebuilding the truck literally from the ground up ... why not get a cheaper start?

    I also realize that I have only a very small amount of room to talk, given that mine was barely out of it's break-in mileage before I did a suspension lift, armor, rims and tires all in a weekend on my 2-month-old Tacoma.
     
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    However, the advantage of a rear coil spring setup is that I am able to shorten the frame behind the rear axles to increase departure angle.

    Also, I plan to have a parallel 4 link flatbed like this:

    10959963_769338619822838_5978494527957347637_o.jpg
     
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    You can bob a bed on leafs too. Just not as much
     
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    If i were to go for the rear 4 link parallel coil spring setup, I can bob the bed as much as 16-20 inches. That is more than for rear leafs.
     
  11. Feb 11, 2015 at 8:21 PM
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    why do you want to do parallel instead of coil overs?
     
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    I would start with getting the truck
     
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    that f250 is insane. it is has a shortened frame by 2ft in front of the rear wheels, portals and of course the fully custom suspension. that truck was built for the 2013 petersons ultimate adventure.

    so you're gonna spend 55-60k on a tacoma to wheel?! good luck and enjoy it!
     
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    @bzzr2, KyleNowad- basically, I plan to have a very similar build as the f250 for the petersons ultimate adventure, except the frame will be shortened behind the rear wheels, have a flatbed, and have a long travel IFS to compensate the lift I will get out back.
    Are you talking about 60,000 dollars on a Tacoma including the truck itself?

    @jlink- the only problem with coilovers is that I am not able to create a true flatbed. Thus if I go for a 4 link parallel coil spring rear suspension w/ shocks, then I can keep all of my suspension parts at or below the frame. In other words, the suspension will not go through the bed area.
     
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    I am looking at replicating a build that looks like this:

    007-1.jpg
     
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    You are going to spend way more than 60k on that set up to get what you are talking about. Go get a salvage titled truck or an old road worthy truck and do it that way.
     
  17. Feb 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM
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    Dont buy a 15 and do that!
     
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    @tostidos- 60k in parts and labor, or 60k all together including the truck itself?
     
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    Dude take it from some one who just built a truck...

    Shit adds up...

    Shit adds up quick...

    And there is always something more you can do that is more money...

    new rear suspension with long travel front roll cage and all that custom work for the bed...

    brand new trucks are what 30-40kish? I say double that and add a little more and throw a year or 2 on to the build time. and thats a rough estimate.
     
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    Thank you for the insight. The reason why I'm looking at a 15 or a 16 and building a multipurpose rig out of it is because I want a rig that will last me 20 years or more.
     

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