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Coilover indecision. Need opinions.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 6spdtaco, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Mar 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM
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    6spdtaco

    6spdtaco [OP] Well-Known Member

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    So I am having trouble with my front suspension, and can't seem to decide what is the best solution.

    Here is my original setup:
    OME complete 3" lift w/886 and TC UCAs. I got it with the 886 coils because I have a winch(synthetic line) mounted up to a CBI front bumper. The front end was higher than 3" of lift when I got everything together. I figured it would settle down, but never really did. The coils seem to be too stiff for the weight of the truck. I noticed while offroading and driving on bumpy roads that there was almost zero compression. I tested my theory by jacking up and lowering the front end a few times in a row and watching the suspension move. It had very little movement, and rested at nearly full extension.

    Original problems:
    -High CV angles(tore a boot), extremely rough ride, harsh top-outs of coils while going over certain bumps.

    Attempted solution/current setup:
    -Swap out to 885 coils.

    Observations about current setup:
    -Ride height lowered significantly. Approx. 1.75" lower.
    -MUCH smoother ride quality.
    -Weight of vehicle sags suspension to about the half way point of travel.
    -CV angles are about parallel with the ground. No more CV boot fins rubbing on each other.

    Potential issues with current setup:
    -Too soft? Might bottom out too easily?
    -Too low. Significant loss of clearance.
    -I plan on getting an aftermarket front skid and the added weight will make it sag/bottom out even easier.

    Solutions/Opinions needed
    -Install top plate spacer: Higher ride height but no added weight support.
    -Get heavy skid plate and re-install 886 coils: Maybe added 70+lbs will help sag the heavy coils?
    -Will an adjustable coilover like Icon or Sway-a-way be my best solution? Expensive stuff so hard to justify...
    -Can I get a custom rate spring for my OME that would be somewhere between the 885 and 886?

    Any opinions appreciated.
     
  2. Mar 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM
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    WifesTaco

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    I am very interested in the opinions too! I have a Bruteforce plate bumper on order and have a Warn winch (synthetic line) waiting for it. I am about to order OME 886 Coils and the Nitrocharger shocks and was wondering how the ride and height will be affected, don't want it to be too stiff. The wife loves the factory soft ride.

    I currently am running just a Readylift 3" spacer up front and AllPro 3" springs in the back. I have 33" tires with no rubbing or vibration issues, I did do the cab mount chop.
     
  3. Mar 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM
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    You might need to get an adjustable coilover? You'll get prob half the money back from selling the current set-up?
     
  4. Mar 29, 2012 at 3:50 AM
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    6spdtaco

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    Tom Woods driveshaft. TRD short throw shift kit. TRD exhaust. AFE Stage II intake. CBI Bumpers front and rear. Warn 8000i winch/ synthetic line. OME 3" lift w/ dakar springs and 886 coils. ATO Front skid. ARE MX cap. Trail Team FJ wheels. Cooper Discoverer ST 265/75-16 C tires. Diff breather relocation mod.
    I am not very familiar with the adjustable coilovers. Do they only adjust height, or can the spring rate be adjusted somehow? I read on Wheelersoffroad site that the Sway-A-Way have 200psi nitrogen charge. Does the nitrogen charge have anything to do with load bearing capabilities, and if so, can it be adjusted?
     
  5. Mar 30, 2012 at 7:55 AM
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    Most coilovers have a standard 650# springs which is enough for bumpers and are all charger to around 200 psi but could be adjusted down for a softer ride. The adjustable coilovers will allow you to preload the springs to compensate for the added weight while keeping height. Go with the top brands Icon, fox, King, Camburg, SAW. Pick a color and price you like because its splitting hairs to compare them all..........I would'nt mess around with spacers and different springs, etc!
     
  6. Mar 30, 2012 at 7:57 AM
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    Keep your eyes peeled for a used pair and get them re-built!
     
  7. Mar 30, 2012 at 4:18 PM
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    I'm thinking about the Icon COs. Opinions?
     
  8. Mar 31, 2012 at 4:30 AM
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    Damn, I was hoping to get some more input. Gotta love it when a thread about cleaning your shoe laces gets more action than an actual technical situation involving a Tacoma...
     
  9. Mar 31, 2012 at 4:56 AM
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    "Icon uses digressive valving which will be a bit stiffer at first, but then smoothes out at faster speeds. King and Fox use progressive valving which is the opposite and is smoother at first, but as speed increases they start to stiffen up"

    copied this from another thread...hope it helps...
     
  10. Mar 31, 2012 at 10:14 AM
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    Idk how true that is, but my Fox's are smooth as hell at speed.... more stiff at slower speeds. Granted, they are pretty well cranked up, there were very much 'caddilac smooth' before I cranked them.

    Op, I recommend the adjustables. Its just such a convenience to be able to put your ride height exactly where you want it. If you get a bumper you just crank em up a little more to support the weight. Order them through Downsouth Motorsports and you can choose which spring you want. I went with a 600lb spring and have no complaints, the 600lb springs still have a little give to them even though I'm cranked for 2.5+, which makes for a more forgiving ride. My friend here has alot stiffer springs and his setup has absolutely no give, might as well be driving a go-kart.
     
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