Colorado B.S. Thread

I'm in for a set when you make some

 

I'm neither, but I play one on the internet.

The actual CO law doesn't say anything about entering the intersection etc. (nor does the driver handbook). It's just interpreted to mean that, because the way it's written yellow is a 'warning of state change' not an actual 'state'.

42-4-604 (1)(b)(I) Vehicular traffic facing a steady circular yellow or yellow arrow signal is thereby warned that the related green movement is being terminated or that a red indication will be exhibited immediately thereafter.

As for the points and insurance, generally no, but apparently with exceptions. You were in Denver at the time, and they say no to both (photo speed violations are zero point): https://www.denvergov.org/content/d...raffic-enforcement/photo-radar-red-light.html
However Fort Collins' page says mostly the same thing... except if you're doing 25mph over the limit in which case it's a 6 point ticket, which they say is based on state law: http://www.fcgov.com/municipalcourt/camera.php

And if you want to read the details of the actual law for cameras, it's 42-4-110.5. Automated vehicle identification systems. Section 1.5 covers the whole 25mph thing, basically saying that this title doesn't apply to any offenses traveling more than that unless it meets specific criteria in 1.7. The more important part is 2b, which says the local municipality can't report you to the DMV (ie points) if it's issued by a camera.

Personal anecdote(s), I got flashed by the one on Monarch Pass a few years ago, and boy was I pissed because it was (is?) set up/located like a speed trap. I did some research into them at the time, and while I can't find the source now I recall seeing that the first offence was automatically forgiven. I never got mailed anything anyway. But I think that was more for that specific location or jurisdiction, and I don't think it necessarily applies to all municipalities. My roommate has been tagged a couple of times. She didn't pay the one from Boulder, but did pay the local one.

You'd have to decide if it's worth fighting or not. Yellow lights get thrown out all the time apparently. In fact there's a lot about how the timing of the camera and light cycle works and can increase accidents rather than reduce them depending on where the clear line is (ie your vehicle must be completely past that point before the light goes red, and it's usually farther in than the white line you can see). But you have to weigh the potential added costs, your time, how likely you might be to lose, and your principles.

 

Just saw the new 60v Dewalt stuff at HD. Miter saw, table saw, and some hand tools.

Oh boy, quickly looked them up and it looks like you can plug them in when batter power isn't needed.

Damnit, just when i thought i was good on tools for a minute.

Looks like I'll have a almost new table saw up for sale soon!

 

It is. The table saw and miter box are 120v (you need two of the batterys)

There stuff looks really cool and i like how it still interfaces with the 20v stuff

 

That is not very nice

 

nerd.

 

Helloooooooooooooooooooooo Colorado! What's cracking in here!

 

Today's lunch.

 

Damn that looks look!! Even though I just had my lunch. What sauce you got going on the checking? Either that is a small size chicken or you got some zucchini on steroids

 

Looks good I meant, sorry I had a some drool on my keyboard from the pic.

 

It's a small breast, but more than a mouthful. The zucchini is pretty big though.
Sauce is Sweet Baby Ray's Honey BBQ.

 

Dear Lord- I cant type for crap!

 

Mmm small breast but mouthful!!

 

No you cant.

 

Thats how brett likes em.

 

Yeah I'll have to do a little more research now. I've been eyeing the 20v miter they've already had since i want to replace my small one. But being able to also plug it in definitely is a great feature.

 

just what are we supposed to be talking about here?

 

Breasts...

 

Look who's talking.. wait me too..